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Would like opinions on paddle or pancake holsters

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#1 ·
Hey all, Mike Britton here.
I am struggling with making a decision on what holster to use.
My carry pistol of choice is an S&W K frame 4" .38. Model 14. I am left handed and I'm looking for something to use with my suspenders. Texas has recently gone to open carry so even though I feel the need to be somewhat discreet I don't have to be completely concealed.

I know a pancake will work, but rigging up will be somewhat of a chore so I was wondering about a paddle.
Apparently, paddle holsters are not too popular, I'm not finding many choices.
So I thought I would come to you all for thoughts and opinions. Thanks, Mike
 
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#2 ·
I ,too, am Left-handed. I know it can be difficult to find a quality holster. KT-Mech is a company that makes Kydex holsters I use, because they routinely offered left-handed options where other companies did not. They used to have a wide variety of styles, I believe they've cut back some on what they offer to reduce wait times.

International Handgun Leather is a great company to work with. The owner has even borrowed my guns and magazines to make molds for left-handed carry. They have a wide variety and some of the highest quality leather holsters.

 
#3 ·
I too, wear suspenders, but with a belt & a pancake holster.
I have never been a fan of the paddle holsters, they shifted too much when I tried to draw the firearm and I found the paddle extremely uncomfortable. I even pulled one paddle holster completely off while trying remove my firearm to store it for the night
 
#5 ·
I'm left handed, and had leather pancake holsters custom made for me for a J-frame, and a 4" K-frame.
I'm going to order one for a Government Model 1911 next.
Each is made to order, I prefer a 15 degree forward cant.
 
#8 ·
Loved my Bianchi Paddle Holster for my S&W Model 19. Though over the past 20 years I’ve gone to a slimmer, semi-auto and use an IWB holster. The paddle was “MUCH” more comfortable.....just not quite as concealable. I probably should try a paddle for my slim semi-auto....I may go back! memtb
 
#9 ·
I'm re-thinking my choice for a "duty" gun.
The K is my old friend and has been with me for many years, but I have a 3914 9mike S&W semi-auto that is lighter and much more concealable.
At the present it is in a paddle made for a Bersa Storm and that is a bit loose.
Now the search will be on for proper leather for the little Smith.
But, let's keep this conversation going, I'm enjoying all the opinions! Thanks!

I would post a picture but something/someone won't allow it....
 
#11 ·
I have long been a fan of El Paso Saddlery holsters, especially the "Tortilla" model. I have several for various firearms.

top quality. good classic style & looks and Made in America
 
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Pancake holster is a style. It has two belt loops, one on each side of the pouch. It is called pancake because it is relatively flat in profile, in other words, not having a held open receptacle the way, say, western holsters do.

Paddle holsters refer to the way the holster is carried. The paddle is essentially a large clip that goes inside the pants, while the holster stays outside the waistband.

There are several potential issues with paddle holsters. One is the tightness of the paddle against the pant waistband. I've seen videos where the gun was drawn and it came out still inside by the holster. Both the gun and the holster came out together. Tightness will obviously depend upon the thickness of the pant. Jeans, being thicker, could be expected to hold the holster down more tightly than a pair of dress pants.

Another problem is comfort. The paddle is a fairly large, rigid, shaped piece of nylon or kydex. It can dig into your abdomen in certain positions, especially sitting.

Another issue is related to the first one. Since the holster is held down only by the paddle, the pouch is likely to be less retentive and the handgun fit, looser. This could allow the firearm to unintentionally work its way out of the holster during bending, jumping, or other activity.

Personally I prefer my holster to be held down by a belt. I think this greatly reduces the issues mentioned above.

Left handedness is not a problem. Excellent custom holsters are available for under 150.00 Also, most major manufacturers make left handed holsters for just about every handgun. These will set you back less than 100.00 Look for Galco, Mitch Rosen, Alessi, and others.

At the bottom of the price scale are molded kydex holsters. These are very secure, form fitting, durable, and reliable. They will set you back less than 50.00 Retention force is adjustable via several screws. They are made with belt loops, or clips, for inside the waistband. These clips hold tighter than paddles across a waistband and will also clip over a belt, acting like a snug belt loop. They are available in both right and left handed versions.

I am right handed. I can wear a right handed version either inside my waistband or inside my belt, between it and my waistband. I also have several left handed kydex holsters that I wear clipped to my belt, on the outside my belt.

If you decide on a kydex holster, think about how you will wear it--inside your waistband, between your belt and your waistband, or outside your belt. And make sure you order the correct version.

One last point. Kydex holsters are inexpensive enough to order one or two just to see how you want to carry--IWB, OWB. Once you decide, you can purchase a leather one. Finally, you can fine tune the fit inside your kydex holster by heating it with a hairdryer and molding it to your specifications.

If you are going to open carry, you may want to consider one of the security holsters. These either have a loop that swings to hold in the back of the handgun, or they have an apparatus to hold the trigger guard until released by a button push. I believe that there is increased security for those who carry concealed vs open.

Remember, at least 10% of the LEOs who are killed in the line of duty are killed with their own guns.
 
#15 ·
If you are not left handed you do not fully understand what left-handers deal with on a regular basis. Blade Tech (one of the largest Kydex holster manufacturers) does not or did not make left-handed holsters for three pistols I was looking for and basically told me to quit bugging them. KT Mech made them no problem.

Paddle holsters can be made with a more comfortable leather vs. plastic paddle. Paddle holsters can use a loop retention system or a hook that goes around a belt not just clips to it. Attaching it to your pants/belt is usually pretty quick. Undoing it may take a little time but that's not what I'm concerned about.

Plastic IWB holsters do hold the holster open better, but that generally assists with the reholstering part of a gunfight. Reholstering is not really the important part of a gun fight.

Retention systems are a good idea. I prefer thumb break types. Retention systems that require you to press a button with your trigger finger are not allowed on many ranges because of the risk of shooting yourself in the leg and foot. I had someone attempt to grab my pistol from it's holster late at night in a convenience store. The retention system and tightness of the IHL pancake holster held the pistol tight enough to prevented it from being drawn that night. BTW, International Handgun Leathers are made right here in Arizona, America. I really do trust my life to them.
 
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Another vote for Simply Rugged. I have several for revolvers and autos. DM Bullard is another good choice.

I have a DM Bullard made for my High Power. They are in my area, and it is beautiful! Met them in Tulsa.
It fits so well that retention is very secure.
 
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I have talked to several prominent S&W collectors and they aren't as rare as one might think. 4" 14's marked for the postal service on the other hand.....
 
#21 ·
Yes there is a big difference between rare & scarce. Some later model S&W revolvers considered scarce have no big demand or market. With CNC it has become to easy to make short runs of “specials”, factory collectors items. The old righteous collectors models will always be collectible. A lot of others will end up only valuable as their function as a shooter. That’s a little better than the collections of Beanie Babies and Billy Beer Cans.
 
#22 ·
Hey all, Mike Britton here.
I am struggling with making a decision on what holster to use.
My carry pistol of choice is an S&W K frame 4" .38. Model 14. I am left handed and I'm looking for something to use with my suspenders. Texas has recently gone to open carry so even though I feel the need to be somewhat discreet I don't have to be completely concealed.

I know a pancake will work, but rigging up will be somewhat of a chore so I was wondering about a paddle.
Apparently, paddle holsters are not too popular, I'm not finding many choices.
So I thought I would come to you all for thoughts and opinions. Thanks, Mike
I have a leather pancake holster. Left handed. Made by Azula. But its for a 5.5" barrel.
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Hey all, Mike Britton here.
I am struggling with making a decision on what holster to use.
My carry pistol of choice is an S&W K frame 4" .38. Model 14. I am left handed and I'm looking for something to use with my suspenders. Texas has recently gone to open carry so even though I feel the need to be somewhat discreet I don't have to be completely concealed.

I know a pancake will work, but rigging up will be somewhat of a chore so I was wondering about a paddle.
Apparently, paddle holsters are not too popular, I'm not finding many choices.
So I thought I would come to you all for thoughts and opinions. Thanks, Mike
 
#23 ·
I know a pancake will work, but rigging up will be somewhat of a chore so I was wondering about a paddle.
Apparently, paddle holsters are not too popular, I'm not finding many choices.
So I thought I would come to you all for thoughts and opinions. Thanks, Mike
I would just thread your belt from right to left..............Then a Left handed pancake holster won't be any different to gear up to..............

Tom
 
#24 ·
I have a whole bucket of holsters for various pistols. Always acquiring them here and there for one reason or another. A classic smith always deserves leather. I have some “more expensive” ones and some cheap ones. I’ve found that Tagua holsters (more of a big name brand) are a good middle of the road option for cost and quality.
 
#25 ·
I like pancake holsters and have also had some luck with paddle type. Always tough to recommend any particular type for others since holsters are a bit like shoes, what feels good and works for one might be unacceptable to another based on preferences, body build, clothing, etc. I definitely prefer something with belt slots mostly though for any active wear as I have had some paddle style holsters work loose while bending or getting on and off an ATV.. Just me though and good luck with your choice!
 
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I'm a lefty who occasionally carries my S&W model 66-2 K frame. I use a Bianchi #5 BHL. It has the snap over the hammer. Top grain tan leather. It's not ideal for summer carry. Not a problem for winter carry here in Maine. I don't like paddle holsters. For summer carry it's a Sig P228 in a El Paso Saddlery Street fighter holster. It rides high and tight!