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Will Aftermarket Saddle Rings Safely Hold a Sling?

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Can anyone tell me how strong an aftermarket saddle ring setup is, the ones you install in place of the cross bolt safety?

I'd like to know if I can put one of these on a 336, and use it as a mounting point for a "ching" center mount sling.

If you know of someone already doing this, I'd love to hear about it. Pictures would be a bonus!

Thanks,

Niftus
 
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Never seen a sling mounted to a saddle ring . . .
 
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I'll hold just fine...after all, the rear is just screwed into wood. The replacement safety saddle ring is "bolted" thru the frame. Now, with that said, its still not a very practical (not tacticool) way of carry.
 
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As 1BH says its a steel bolt and plenty strong. As you may know The saddle ring is really a single point sling mount. About 10,000 years ago some bronze age guys came up with a cool idea of hanging weapons off their body by a single point. Axes, swords and muskets and pistols are all carried on baldrics or a sash or cross body belt. the US 1855 carbine sling is an adaptation of this design as is the Ching sling.

What is old is new. Pretty cool hu?
 
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The late Col. Jeff Cooper is who put this thought into my head. In The Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip book, Col. Cooper has several very positive references to lever guns being extremely good all-round carbines, close to his favored bolt-action .308 scout. Not sure I would do this, but am looking for information (thinking a 35 Rem with a scout scope and a ching sling might be a sweet setup). Here is an example of what he says from p. 628 of my 2001 reprinted edition:
"The installation of a CW ("Ching") Sling on the M94 30-30 is a somewhat complex proposition, since there are no satisfactory places to install a sling socket forward of the butt-stock. One answer is to fit your Cobra sling with snap-hooks. Then a ring socket can be installed in the toe of the butt and another attached to the magazine just forward of the fore-end, using an Uncle Mike base. For the center-mountingthe saddle ring, which comes standard on some M94's, will suffice very well (for a right-handed shooter). If your piece does not have a saddle-ring you can easily install one."

Having never seen one of these saddle ring kits I wanted to know how firmly they were affixed into the gun. Sounds like that's a non-issue, they are more than a decorative doo-dad per your answers, thank you. Since you are still reading, here is another question: for the rear ching sling-attach point, could a butt cover adaptation be used to hold the rear ring socket, instead of attaching the ring socket directly into the butt-stock toe?
 
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I sold this little 1894 357Mag (barrel bobbed to 16") to a very happy fellow MO'er a few months back.I know it's not a saddle ring,but similar.

With the sling looped over my head and right soldier the little carbine rested on my right hip like a big revolver without dragging my pants off and could be swung up into shooting position in one smooth movement.Much like Clyde Barrow carried his sawed off BAR under his trench coat.
I'v not been into robbing banks much lately but I did carry the carbine frequently on horseback and ATV snug and dry under my rain coat.

I don't think I'd trust a 60's-70's Marlin saddle ring for actual carry,they only thread-up a few turns but anything going through the receiver should be fine.
 
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I sold this little 1894 357Mag (barrel bobbed to 16") to a very happy fellow MO'er a few months back.I know it's not a saddle ring,but similar.

With the sling looped over my head and right soldier the little carbine rested on my right hip like a big revolver without dragging my pants off and could be swung up into shooting position in one smooth movement.Much like Clyde Barrow carried his sawed off BAR under his trench coat.
View attachment 31617 I'v not been into robbing banks much lately but I did carry the carbine frequently on horseback and ATV snug and dry under my rain coat.

I don't think I'd trust a 60's-70's Marlin saddle ring for actual carry,they only thread-up a few turns but anything going through the receiver should be fine.
Thanks fellas, this is good information and it's appreciated.

Mudpuppy, speaking of happy buyers that little 99M1 you sold me has given a lot of pleasure. It cleaned up nice. One of the kids out at our deer lease threw an unopened, shaken up Coke can up in the air when I was carrying the 99M1 and on the spot dared me to hit it. That little .22 swung up onto my shoulder and before I realized it, BOOM, we were all covered in Cokey-cola! It's a handy little shooter. We're all glad to hear that you cut back on bank robbing! :biggrin:
 
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The only weakness might be that the saddle ring safety delete is held in place with just a small allen screw or a compressed spring and ball detent dependig how the saddle ring safety delete was installed. A hard jerk sideways might pull the saddle ring out of the rifle.
 
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That small spring/detent does NOT hold the hammer block safety pin in the receiver! It only keeps the pin from spinning/turning, that pin goes completely through the receiver with a screw on the opposite side of receiver holding it in...

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