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Travis tackles the 7mm Thompson Center Ugalde

3.9K views 17 replies 5 participants last post by  swany  
#1 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJEAHm3HTr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoW6_XrWsLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlxQFEEZTXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ_EY2-jbHs

So yeah... I finally got the stuff to load for the rascal. Very interesting and fun stuff. I finally goofed up with my chargemaster combo though, and I forgot to close the drain spout like an idiot and found H322 all over my table, so I had to clean that up.

I started at 24 grains, and worked up in .2 grain increments eventually until I got to 25 grains, maximum being 26. The only time I didn't work up in .2 grains was when I got to 24.4, and went to 24.8 so I could load the last 4 with 25grs. to equal a total number of 20 cartridges. I found myself trying to find powders that wouldn't wind up in a compressed charge, but it seems like 25 is pretty much almost compressed, with the bullet touching the top of the powder. H322 seems very bulky, and a minimal amount of powder equals a very large charge rate, which my scale was on because I checked it, just the nature of the powder.

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The bullet in the cartridge on the left is not crooked, just the way the picture looks.

Hopefully these shoot good, and fire in the first place. I've heard these thompson centers can be fussy sometimes. I should have videos and a range report Wednesday. Hope y'all enjoy the vids!
 
#5 ·
Dill45 said:
What kind of performance can you get out of the cartridge?
It just depends on the powder and weight of the bullet. The 7mm TCU was one of those cartridges guys used to knock the rams down at 300 yards and stuff in IHMSA (I think thats correct?) competition. You can expect anywhere from 1500-2000 FPS depending on bullet weight, and barrel length. Def good enough for inside of 150 yards deer popping.
 
#8 ·
Any idea on the recoil? I know a 223 isn't that bad, but...this is a 7mm pushing a bullet that weighs at least double that of a .223 and with no muzzle break. Might be a good kicker.

I know a guy at my range that shoots a T/C in 30-06, and boy does that thing recoil. Has a muzzle break so the muzzle flash and noise are something to be witnessed but that gun seems like an angry bull.
 
#13 ·
Travis, brings back some fond memories my first TC was in 7 TCU with a 10 inch bbld model, I liked that cal but sold the bbl after I bought a 7mm International in a 14 inch bbl (A 30-30 necked to 7mm and blown out AI) bbl, it was not needed the 7 TCU would have done what I wanted, back then I wanted the latest fastest whiz bang I could get. I found with either the 120gn Sierra worked well. Alas I'm a rifleman hunter and a close friend is a TC collector. Thanks for the videos.
 
#15 ·
Don't know how I missed the videos the first time through. geeze.
Great work - kind of the equivelent of a smokey old bar sitting at you're bench like that.

I used to shoot some sillywet in Sacramento several years ago. Started with the 7TCU. Had 3 barrels at one point. Have to see if I have ANY left. :)

Swanny,
Was the 7mm International the one that Don Bower pushed before he came up with his own rounds for long range stuff? My brains skipping a cog.
 
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1buba said:
Don't know how I missed the videos the first time through. geeze.
Great work - kind of the equivelent of a smokey old bar sitting at you're bench like that.

I used to shoot some sillywet in Sacramento several years ago. Started with the 7TCU. Had 3 barrels at one point. Have to see if I have ANY left. :)

Swanny,
Was the 7mm International the one that Don Bower pushed before he came up with his own rounds for long range stuff? My brains skipping a cog.
What usually shocks people the most is that I'm only 18. lol ;D
 
#17 ·
YYYEEEHHHAAAAAA!!!! Shot my pistol today! Dang was that exciting!!! ;D Most loads shot good, but I pulled off on quite a few of them on the last shot which screwed up some of the groups, but I got some promising loads. 24.4 grains shot great, and 24.8 grains put 2 touching, with one through the same hole, and 1 flyer, but the pressure was getting on up there. I'm going to settle on 24.6 grains. The scope is a very low magnification scope and it was hard for me to see the target at 50 yards since it was basically like open sights with crosshairs. I'm going to load up the last 30 rounds I have and take it shooting saturday so I can get all 50 rounds of brass I prepped fire-formed. It's definitely a weird unique looking cartridge now that I have the brass fire-formed and the 30* shoulder is present, and I'll make sure I have video of it saturday. I'll post a pic of the target after I eat. I will say one thing though... I've gotten to work with compressed charges, and I never will again. The 25gr. load was a compressed charge, and it was so hot the groups were horrible, the gun was hard to open, and the recoil hurt my hand and it's hard to believe 26 grains is a maximum load. Isn't it funny how 24.8 shot so great with pressure signs just starting to show, and 2/10's of a grain higher was too much and allowed for a compressed charge. Reloading is so fun, and especially working with my first wild cat! ;D
 
#18 ·
1buba said:
Don't know how I missed the videos the first time through. geeze.
Great work - kind of the equivelent of a smokey old bar sitting at you're bench like that.

I used to shoot some sillywet in Sacramento several years ago. Started with the 7TCU. Had 3 barrels at one point. Have to see if I have ANY left. :)

Swanny,
Was the 7mm International the one that Don Bower pushed before he came up with his own rounds for long range stuff? My brains skipping a cog.

The 7mm International Rimmed was developed as a silhouette cartridge for use in the Thompson Center single shot pistol. It is based on the 30-30 Winchester case necked down to 7mm (.284"), then fire formed to create a 38 degree shoulder angle. It was developed by Elgin Gates in the late 1970s as one of a series of wildcat silhouette cartridges ranging from 25 to 35 caliber for I.H.M.S.A. matches. The 7mm International Rimmed cartridge is similar to the commercial 7-30 Waters except for the sharper shoulder and less body taper. Both are made by necking down the 30-30 Winchester case. The 7mm International Rimmed is popular among handgun silhouette shooters and is a very effective cartridge for this sport.