The same can be said about nearly any other hobby and guns are no exception. As an example, they say fishing lures catch more fishermen than they do catching fish. The same can be said for gun doodads and the black rifle world is full of them. I would like to face punch the guy that coined the term tacticool, how stupid.

With lever guns people have strong opinions and some really get their panties in a bunch over something as silly as adding a scope. Never mind those of us that are into NFA stuff like suppressors or short barrel rifles. I modify my guns to suit my own needs and don't need affirmation nor approval from anyone else.

 

Looks like you were actually able to get a diversified machine suppressor. Been on the email list for about a year now!

 

Good, valid point kingstrider, but few hobbies are likely to be called upon to defend your and your families lives. Toys are fun, guns can be fun but are not toys.

 

Not sure where you're going with this thread but that is stating the obvious. Only fools fail to respect the capability of a firearm and it doesn't matter how many bells & whistles it has. My lever guns are mostly used for punching paper or killing game but are capable of filling other roles if and when needed. That said, I would take an AR15 or M1 over a lever gun any day of the week in a SHTF scenario. Just curious but can you own semi- or fully-automatic rifles over there? Or is the lever gun the most 'tactical' thing big brother will let you have?

 

The first tactical accessory purchase for any firearm should be at least 1,000 rounds for practice. Then figure out if any improvements are needed.

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XS Ghost Ring and XS wide white line front. Because I have a lot of practice with my eye sight.... and at least 1,000 rounds of ammunition.

One to save, one to shoot. One, two to save, two to shoot.

Alright trivia fans who am I paraphrasing?

 

I took a 20" Rossi 44 Mag and turned it into a 16" barrel with a 3/4 mag tube because I liked the balance. Skinner peep sights completed the package and it is good to go as far as I am concerned. About 2.000 rounds through it now, it does what I need it to do.

 

My tactical lever is a bit more basic:

 

I guess I would be called 'Tacti-Geek'. My minimalist taste tends to be classic as in Vietnam era style with basic improvements that help without adding too much weight or having this or that getting in the way. I was indoctrinated by Jeff Cooper.

AC

 

AC, Jeff Cooper and I knew one another. I would visit him in Arizona and was 'his man in Brazil' for a while. Leading to quotes in his Guns and Ammo column. You want pressure when shooting, try shooting with him! Then having him check out your sidearm! A sad loss for the the shooting world.

 

I never jumped on the "tacti-cool" band wagon. I'm perfectly
happy to let that trend pass me by.
I'm a blued steel and walnut guy all the way. Prefer leather
to nylon slings.
I have a cut down 44 magnum 1894 that I keep around for
home defense.
Is that tactical? I don't know...
I don't begrudge anybody that likes what they like.
We all have our deal that were into.
I was a bolt-action fanatic at one time...so
I guess things can change too.

 

I used a Rossi so I would not feel too bad if I messed it up. It turned out about how I wanted.

 

I'd feel purty comfy with one of my Marlin 357's.....44 or 45 Colt......

if I ever needed to defend my castle............

 

What is considered too much or not necessary? Lights? Optics? Slings? Suppressors?

I don't understand the argument. It's not like people are strapping umbrellas and TV remotes to their rifles.

Can you have semiautomatics in England?

 

Can you have semiautomatics in England?

Only rimfires and shotguns. Far from ideal, but they could definitely be worse off.


My 'tactical' rifles (AR-15, .30-30s) are perfectly fine with just irons, a sling, and sometimes a weapon light. I prefer to keep them trim and handy; I'm defending my home, shooting recreationally, and occasionally assisting LE in wide-area searches.

My DMR is a bit of a heavy thing, but it wears a large optic, aluminum free-float rail, and bipod, and is intended for shots at 500 yards and beyond.

 

I guess its a personal thing. none of my levers are adorned. but when you guns looks like a one man band. your getting carried away.

 

I would never buy a stainless lever or put a scope on one. I'm traditional. I don't care what you do to your lever just don't try to make me like it. Hack away Bubbas! I have ARs and the like for that.

 

I installed an XS Sight on my 336 because of my aging eyes, love it !!!
But that is the only thing I have modified, don't like scopes on levers.

 

I my self has to have a scope for anything past 50 yards now because of my eyesight. Anything below 50 yards I have no problems with my stock sights on my marlin hence the quick connect scope rings. Also I got a wildlife tech 250 yrd greenlight with a quick disconnect to mout on my scope ring that has a picannily mount on top of one of them. But on tactical levers well I might go the route of the mossberg lever that has been out for a few years Mossberg 464? SPX Lever Action Centerfire Rifles | O.F. Mossberg & Sons. I been kicking around the ideal of getting one all because it had a place to attach a light to them for them in the dark situations that might crop up for just in case.

 

As far as Tactical goes, I can lay down suppressor fire with my Uberti Model 73 as fast if not faster than with my AR-15. Alas, I can not reload as fast nor do I have the distance capabilities. As far as modifications go, the 73 has had the lever stroke shortened and action slicked up. Only takes 2 fingers in the lever to cycle the action. Try watching Jimmy Spurs on youtube.

 

A plain jane 1894 lever gun is a great tool for camping and hiking for more firepower when I'm in wolf and grizzly country. I'm adding things to mine to make it even more of an effective tool. I'm not afraid of insults if those things I add are not typical lever-gun accessories. I like the look of leather slings. However, they are heavier and slicker than the nylon/rubber sling I added. I like leather shell holders on the butt stock. But I chose a nylon one with an extra pocket because it worked better. I bought a scope that is a small 3x "tactical" armored scope with a lighted reticle. Should work great for my intended use and better than a normal blued scope.

I have an 1885 Winchester high wall Uberti clone. It has the period correct scope and goodies on it. I would never add anything non-traditional to it. But a $500 Remlin that is going to be abused in the woods? You betcha...

 

Some people marry ugly chicks because they're good cooks.

 

No doubt! But why go ugly(Remlin) and high maintenance(Remlin)?:hahaha:

 

Mine's starting to look pretty unconventional for a lever gun...

 

I didn't like the shell holder on the outside; snagged on my jacket when shouldering the rifle. There's two velcro strips; one on the inside of the pocket and the one on the outside. I put the shell holder on the inside one and found a new spot to put my various velcro hat patches...

 

Big fan of the lever carbine, here. I own four: two Marlins - an 1894CS357 and an FG - and two Winchester clones - a Miroku Browning '92 in .44 Mag and a blued 16" Rossi 92 in .357.

A gun counter sage recently said with the topic being SASS shootin', "These things were never meant to have as many rounds through them as these guys do!", to which I disagree. A lever rifle, a lever carbine was the battle rifle of it's time. Imagine the volume of fire when defending a stagecoach stop against an Apache war party...

My Rossi, since it's the shortest overall, is in my home defense rotation, along with a 3" .45auto 1911 and an 18" Wingmaster. My .41 FG is my pride and joy.

 

Back in the last quarter of the 19th Century, you couldn't get much more tacti-cool than a revolver/levergun combo in the same calibre.

 

^ ^ ^ One reason could be that a rider with his rifle his primary weapon, had his sixgun on his belt strictly as backup, or in the event of being thrown from a panicking horse with one boot caught in a stirrup he could use his sixgun on the horse to save his own hide... either way it's efficient when packing your gear to only be concerned with one cartridge.

I'm fortunate to have two such combinations; a Marlin FG and a .41 Old Model Blackhawk - and - a Browning Miroku Winchester 92 in .44 Mag and either an Old Model Super BH or a wonderful (even if much newer) .44 Special New Model flat top.

I should amend my earlier comment, 'A gun counter sage recently said with the topic being SASS shootin', "These things were never meant to have as many rounds through them as these guys do!", to which I disagree. A lever rifle, a lever carbine was the battle rifle of it's time. Imagine the volume of fire when defending a stagecoach stop against an Apache war party...'

...by saying, sure! the SASS folks run several hundred rounds through their guns every weekend! whereas our faithful and courageous station operator, while not defending against an ***** attack every weekend would certainly need his rifle to remain reliable under such duress. And so on and so forth...

:bandit:

 

When I bought my first lever gun, I told people that I was buying a tactical weapon. Most were surprised at the terminology I used.
Just because it's beautiful doesn't mean its not tactical.

 

The basic stock "period" lever action rifle WAS the tactical battle rifle of its day, and if you really think about it, nothing has changed regarding the practicality and functionality of this platform to this day. Bolt action rifles didn't really improve on the overall firepower, rapidity of fire or accuracy over the lever action rifle. Not really. Magazine fed weapons did improve the speed of reloading and of course the ability of choosing between semi-auto and full-auto drastically improved number of rounds down range, but not necessarily accuracy of rounds on target.

For those of us living out on the Left Coast the option of owning a modern day battle rifle has pretty much been eliminated due to socialist snowflake laws and legal hassles. So in looking for an alternative I've been leaning heavily towards Lever Actions to defend home and hearth. If anyone has actually been to a Cowboy Action event, you can't help but be impressed with just how fast some of those folks can light off and really work an "Ol Lever" gun. Impressive to say the least, not to mention hitting all those gongs like clockwork. Of course they do PRACTICE A LOT, far more than even the modern day soldier today. Sad to say.

The ability to install modern optics and synthetic stocks is a plus. Also the means to improve the ability to quickly acquire targets, improve accuracy with modern optics and if you must add other "Tactic-Kool" toys like lights and even lasers they are readily available for those so inclined.

One advantage of the lever rifle is the ability to top off the magazines on the fly....not to mention not having to carry extra magazines like modern battle rifles. I consider both the lever and bolt guns to be weapons of true riflemen....i.e. One shot - One kill, rather than the spray and pray often seen in actual combat and depicted in the cinema.

As my old training Gunny used to say: "It's not rounds down range that count - It's rounds on target!"

 

I would never choose a lever for a tactical weapon other than as a weapon of opportunity. While it's almost as tactically good as a sporting bolt gun, it is not as safe for the shooter to operate prone as is a bolt gun; if your bolt gun is a early 20th century battle rifle (not a Krag), it has accommodation for loading with stripper clips, so both loading and operation can be done without exposing the shooter.

Once I leave the PI I'll never touch a black rifle again, but that does not mean I would believe a lever to be a weapon-of-choice substitute, just a great piece of machinery that serves me well in its intended role.