Marlin Firearms Forum banner

St. Louis Arms Co. Double Barreled Shotgun

1 reading
7.4K views 11 replies 8 participants last post by  Steve_In  
#1 ·
I need help identifying and pricing this old shotgun.

I have a very good friend with Parkinson's disease that has an old double barreled shotgun for sale. It's a really old shotgun and I don't expect it to be worth much. I would like to buy it from him just to play with. However, if the gun has any real value I would want to let him sell it for the greater value as he needs all the help he can get to move into an assisted living facility.

Receiver says "St. Louis Arms Co."; left barrel stamped "Bored by Skilled Mechanics"; right barrel stamped "Blue Diamond Steel"; serial number on barrels, receiver, and fore end all say 7659. There is no Ga.( it looks like a 12 Ga), choke, or other information stamped on the gun anywhere. The barrels do not appear to be Damascus.
It seems to be well made and solid. It has been well used but not abused. There is some evidence of pitting inside the barrel near the chamber end. It has really nice darkened oiled wood and a nice patina on the steel. Cleaned up it would make a handsome old shotgun.

My research thus far indicates it could have been built by a Belgium maker, Iver Johnson, or maybe Stevens or Savage for sale by Shapleigh Co. or Sears and Roebuck Co.

Value comments range from "$50-75 for a decorator piece/wall hanger" to "don't give it away these old trade guns are rapidly going up in value."

I am hoping someone on our forum will have some additional information and opinions on this old shotgun. Estimated age would be very helpful.

 
#3 ·
Google search results show it is a trade name for shotguns sold by Shapleigh Hardware of St Louis and Sears. Originally produced by a company in Belgium then later by Crescent Arms. If in new condition maybe $200. If used but working condition maybe $100 per an antique arms site.
 
#4 ·
From the research I did I found that the value is base on the condition but the value range from 150-300 dollars and it really depends on the condition and looking at the pictures and if the wood aint cracked or damaged in any way and the bore is nice and shiny I would feel comfortable in giving about 200 dollars if I had the money.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BFPGW
#6 ·
Stevens supposedly made shotguns for St. Louis Arms and this gun looks very similar to a Stevens 311, but not exactly. Stevens had a manufacture date code that began in 1949, but I didn't see that although the pictures don't show all the locations for the date stamp. This shotgun has a serial number and I don't think that Stevens put one on their 311 models until 1969. So, I guess now you know a little more about Stevens 311's, but no more about your shotgun. Sorry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mjadams61
#8 ·
Look under the barrels for proof marks. That will tell you if it was Belgium made. The wood appears to be European Walnut to me and I like the semi-pistol grip. The barrels were "BORED BY SKILLED MECHANICS". In the late 19th and early 20th century a machinist was referred to as a mechanic so that may help date it. I would guess $300 to $400 would be fair. There is a shotgun forum but I have lost my old bookmarks but maybe a search would produce it. Good Luck to your friend.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mjadams61
#9 ·
Steve_In, I have looked every where, under everything. The marks I showed you are the ONLY marks on the gun. I even used a magnifying glass to help look for proof marks, etc.
 
#12 ·
Billy I doubt that it is made in Belgium then with out proof marks. There were several American makers that would private label shotguns back then. Be interesting to find out Who.