I haven't, but I have some 250gr bullets I may try. They are meant for .358Win, but should work fine in my '55 Marlin.

 

I have a Rem. 760 35R., at one time I thought I can load up some Sierra 225gr. G-King but no available data. So I called Sierra and spoke to a tech he said the MV. would be too slow for this bullet but up close might work. This seem to be not what I wanted since I was looking for a good 100 yard+ round (this was a long time ago). But his advice was to use the data for the 250 gr. bullet and not exceed the 200 gr. bullet data. I wrote this info. in my Hodgdon #26 manual.

But now with the Speer 220 gr. FN and available printed data this seems doable.
Tony

 

Always fun to experiment with new loads. FWIW, and JMHO, if you can't do it with a 200 grain 35rem load, you need more gun! The bullet performance at 35 rem velocities for 200 grain rn bullets is ideal at 35 remington ranges. I think that a starting velocity of 2000 fps for 220 grainers is on the low end of the expansion window. Check out the sticky on 35 rems excellent bullet test results - really the gold standard in comparative bullet tests for the 35rem. But, if you're just looking to eat up some components and want to use 220 grainers, I'm sure you'll harvest deer in NYS even with poor bullet performance with the 35. Depending on the hit and the size of the deer, I'd expect limited expansion and a slightly longer tracking job with a dead deer at the end of the trail.
Good luck!

 

Well I guess you're talking to me. I have no idea if you're right or not, but Speer made the 220 gr. FN bullet for the 35 Rem. and its Muzzle Velocity so it should work fine. On the other hand the Sierra 225 gr. GK. is made for 350 mag. and 35 cal. of higher MV., so its not good. But you have your opinion just like, well know! every body has one! :top:
Tony

 

Yes I have, my 336 shot them well, it shoots the 200gr sierra with LVR powder better, but I would hunt with ether one !!!

 

When the 220 Speer was introduced the 356 Winchester did not exist.

Having shot the mentioned charge of H4895 in a "close enough" manner in terms of weight (36.5 grains) I will note I got around 2050-2060 fps with my 20 inch 336's. While the 220 Speer may not be necessary for successful deer shooting as opposed to a 200 RN like the Core-Lokt (sadly unobtainium these days, which makes me glad I stashed away a whole bunch of them) for the 100 yard and under shooting envisioned here it will do just fine. It did for me.

The 220's availability gives decided options in terms of penetration, and if interested in optimizing its speed at acceptable pressures there is LVR powder. Nothing else comes close. However, the mentioned H4895 load is fine for not only 100 yard deer shooting but also could be the best thing possible for a much bigger than average black bear at commonly encountered ranges. Its penetration runs about 50-60% greater than the typical 200 RN factory load. Not that a 200 RN would not also do well there, but if you like penetration you will get it with the 220.

For me, the accuracy of the 220 Speer shades the 200 RN's. The longer bearing surface is my theory as to why.

 

Here is the result I got with a Speer 220 grain fp bullet and 42.0 grains of Lever. Opening day this year.

DRSLYR

 

Spell that D A I D...... or as my dad would pronounce it, "dayder than a canna tuna!

 

Oh right away mountainguy I do have a Win. 94 356 Win. But believe it or not Hodgdon online data run the 220 gr. bullet only MV. at 2015 fps. and the 35 Rem. at 2010 fps. So where is your opinion :thumpdown:

 

Not sure if I understand the last post 308/338 - but it sounds like your proposed load has been vetted and successful! Parting shot - My only Speer manual (Speer #11) has this to say about the 220 and the 356: "The 35 caliber 220 grain Flat Nose bullet has been reintroduced due to popular demand. It is very well suited for use in the 356 winchester....The Speer 220 grain flat nose is made to fit this cartridge and is an excellent choice for a game bullet." While it mentions neither the 180 or 220 in its write-up on the 35 rem specifically, it provides data for both, and in the general review of bullets in the .358 lineup states that "Speer 180 grain flat nosed bullets, although primarily intended for the 35 Remington, are used quite often in other 35 caliber cartridges." Regardless, 35 Rems tests and the results of fellow hunters are the 'boots on the ground' proof of what this combo can do - happy hunting!

 

Too bad Hodgdon left so much on the table with the 356 Winchester, 2300-2400fps is where it should be with the 220 Speer.


I'm running them in my 358 Win, rimless 356 Win, at 2437fps with room to go up.

 

Yes The Speer #12 manual has the 356W. (Sp. 220 gr. CCI mag AA2015BR@ 42.0 compressed Mzl. Vel. 2344 fps.) no mention of brand case but it would have to be a Win. case. I called Hodgdon and asked about the 356W data a tech said " we didn't do any new development on the 356W" I quoted him to the best of my memory of a phone call 15-+ year ago. If I'll load my 356W with the Sp. 220 gr. FN I'll use the Speer data not Hodgdon's online date, but for only as a reference.
Tony