That's what happens when you want to hype a .44 mag put a pointy bullet in it and make the brass shorter so it will cycle instead of hanging up. The OAL of a LE .44 mag gummi tip in a standard case would make some hang up.

 

I have tried to load 265 gr flex tips for a 44 mag and they will not cycle in a standard 44 mag case, I had to custom trim about .040 of the cases to make it work. I switched to 225 gr flextips and those will load in a standard case and cycle fine in my 1894 SS.

 

Far as I'm concerned even shortening a say Rem or WW case to use the LE bullets may be an explosion waiting to happen and very dangerous.

Hornady cases are short to start with and as such have less powder space giving higher velocities and higher pressures than the standard length cases.

Bottom line check the ballistics of the pointed bullets vs the standard bullets and ask yourself if you need it considering the max range of the mag pistol rifle you are shooting them out of. My guess is if you want a levergun that shoots out to 150 to 200 yds step up from the .357 and .44 mags to when of them hyper velocity 30-30s.

The pointed pistol bullet an idea we did not need, when you go to a rifle cal I can understand its need.

 

I am not necessarily a fan of leverevolution terminal performance but I sure hate to throw away brass. Couldn't it be trimmed to 44 special? Forgive my ignorance but this is the only way I know to learn. Fom

 

I got some of the 225gr flextips in 44 cal for my muzzleloader. I was using 100 gr. of BH209 at a velocity of about 1950 FPS. They shot excellent.(holes touching) BUT When I dug 2 of them out of the dirt they had basically not expanded at all. They more or less just lost their plastic tips. Not impressed at all with them.

 

I am not necessarily a fan of leverevolution terminal performance but I sure hate to throw away brass. Couldn't it be trimmed to 44 special? Forgive my ignorance but this is the only way I know to learn. Fom

Far as I know the only real difference between Magnum & Special cases is the length, so yea. You should be able to do that. I say "should" because I'm unsure if there's a wall thickness / interior volume difference. I don't think there is but it'd be worth looking into that point.

The magnum case is 0.125" longer than the special case, and you're running .030" under mag length on your LE brass already. All other things being equal, you should be just fine trimming another 0.095" off your cases. (.44 Special case length = 1.16")

/randy

 

The short answer is YES you can cut them down to .44 Spec. I have done this with .44 Mag brass that I have had the neck split. And would clean up fine for the .44 Sp. I like you do not wish to throw things away lol.

 

I am not necessarily a fan of leverevolution terminal performance but I sure hate to throw away brass. Couldn't it be trimmed to 44 special? Forgive my ignorance but this is the only way I know to learn. Fom

Yep! And I would be more than happy to do that trimming for you. Course, I WOULD load and shoot it about 10-12 loadings to make sure I trimmed it right!!! ;D

For awhile, I couldn't get Spc brass and thought I would have to trim mag brass. Glad I didn't HAVE to!

 

Now we have a good use for LVR brass. Just send it to oscarflytier. ;D Fom

 

Now we have a good use for LVR brass. Just send it to oscarflytier. ;D Fom

+2! Must be my lucky day! Son just called me. Seems he has a pallet of old nasty used WWs in the warehouse and wants to know if I want them. I will need a LOT of LVR brass for all that lead!

 

I am wondering if it would really be necessary to shorten the brass to 44 special lengths. I have some Hornady 45 colt brass that is a few hundredths short for whatever reason that I still use, but just for light loads only. Could you take the length of the short 44 mag brass, figure out the difference between what is acceptable 44 mag and 44 special and load accordingly?