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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Wondering how everyone who owns one is feeling about Ruger made Marlin quality. I want to add a 336 30-30 to my collection, but at this point will probably wait until they are available in stores to look at before buying one basis the ok quality I saw on the below 2 1895s.


I have 2, a 1895 trapper and SBL.

I’d say the laminated wood to metal fit is OK on both, but not great. A The fore ends on both look great , but the buttstock to receiver fit isn’t perfect (excess wood on both). I’ve seen worse.

The triggers on both were bad out of the box 6+ lbs and really gritty, feeling like it had 2 breaks instead of linear creep or a clean break. Had a local smith get them down to a clean 3.5 lbs for the Trapper and 4.25 for the SBL without having to go to a trigger kit or reduced power springs.

Some minor metal scratches from the factory. I bought a stainless Blackhawk this year that was quite marred new, so it could be worse I suppose.

The bore in both appears to be rough from tooling marks from the naked eye at the muzzle. I went through a barrel break in dance with the Trapper, which did seem to improve copper fouling some. I haven’t gotten there yet with the SBL. Still, from what I have read a rough bore from Ruger is typical, and removing copper fouling is a chore. I’m not expecting a hand lapped barrel, but this is on the worse end I’ve seen from my factory rifles.

Accuracy out of the trapper was good. I sighted in at 50, given the low power optic and expected hunting distances, and would say it’s probably a 1-2 MOA gun, which is fine for this type of gun. I did have one flyer shoot low 2 inches at 50, but I’m going to say I wouldn’t be surprised if I got a really low powder charge in factory ammo. I’m still doing a break in (shoot one and clean) on the SBL and haven’t mounted an optic, so don’t know how it groups yet.

Function seems to be fine, but IMO should be a baseline expectation vs something to rave about.

Overall, I’m not dissatisfied, but also not as wowed with the QA as the media coverage would indicate.

I have a couple of JMs in my safe from the 60-70s (336 in .44 and 1894 in 357), and would say the fit and finish are better on those two examples, but then my grandfather was a very picky gun collector so that doesn’t mean the JM samples on average compare more favorably.

There are a few manufacturers that you can order a rifle with both eyes closed and know it will be next to perfect (Tikka as an example, which isn’t fair given the materials, I know), but I’m going to place these in the “I’d rather see before I buy” camp, which is with most factory guns I’d want for more than a beater.
 
#2 ·
Should have gotten one of the late Remingtons ;). The bore is as smooth and shiny as a mirror and the wood fit is good, the fore stock is nearly as slim as the current Rugers and it will shoot MOA with HLR ammo and often with the Federal Hammer Down/Fusion.
 
#3 ·
I can’t complain about accuracy. I only tried groups with factory Barnes TSX, and it was a little windy. Looks like a 10 mph cross wind wild push that load by 3 inches at 100. And this is a <100 woods thumper.

I haven’t owned one, but my understanding is that 1/2 MOA savages will have all sorts of tooling marks in the bore, so it’s not necessarily that crucial for accuracy. More of a pet peeve on quality for me. It’s probably more apparent because of the bore diameter, not sure I would have picked up on it in a 6.5mm caliber without a bore scope .
 
#4 ·
I have a 45/70 and the 336. I really like them. I have a plethora of JMs and a Remington along with these two Rugers. I threw a hand ful of ammo into my vest pockets and went out and “broke” the barrel in. Hammering rocks about the size of coffee cans out to about 130-150 yards at the furthest. Had to drift the sights a bit but they shot great.

Fit and finish, I know Ruger is putting some pretty wood on that 336. I guess I didn’t pay a lot of attention if there was a perfect fit. They shoot and look good to me.
 
#5 ·
Just giving an honest answer: you will never be satisfied with any new lever gun out of the box, based on your critique. Marlins of the past were not built for light trigger precision shooting and neither are these, expecting 3.5lbs out of the box is just asking for disappointment. I have had unfired SWs from the 50s through the 70s that didn’t have perfect fit for wood, again hoping for perfect fit out of the box is just asking for disappointment. Expecting both? Well, you’re just expecting to be disappointed by now.

I’ve had the Trapper and SBL and both performed exactly as they should have, in many ways better than JMs. I don’t own a presafety JM that will cycle Hornady FTX, I never owned a Remlin that could cycle anything EXCEPT Winchester 300gr, the Rugers eat everything, including my Ruger 1 pressure handloads. The only reason I don’t have those guns anymore is because someone else wanted them more than they wanted a 444p, 444s, and 1895s. They can’t go to Bass Pro and buy any of those three they traded me, but I can go buy again the 2 I traded, and I’m sure I will.
 
#6 ·
Fair enough.

On the trigger, one reason I felt comfortable buying online as I did is that I knew Marlin triggers were easy to work on, and my gunsmith turned out a good trigger for not much money.

I will say that the handful of Henrys I have looked at had surprisingly excellent triggers, so I don’t think it’s impossible on production level rifles.
 
#8 ·
I try not to purchase rifles or guns of any sort that I have not put my hands on or a trusted person at minimum. My three (four actually) 1895 Marlins, I touched them and looked them over and looked down the bore and inside the receiver and cycled the actions and carefully inspected them for my pet grievances. It would not matter if it was a JM, Rem or Ruger, I want to look it over closely.
 
#10 · (Edited)
I have a Guide Gun and a 336 Classic, both Mayodan made. The quality overall is as good or better than my 3 JM Marlin’s (early 1970s, mid-1990s and 2001). The actions were smooth out of the box. Accuracy of both is a bit better than I expect from a lever action.

Loading both of the Mayodan made rifles is much more pleasant than the older Marlins. I swear my 1895 LTD tries to get a chunk of thumb every time I take it out. An after-market loading gate would fix that.

I confess this gave me an excuse to nearly empty my safe :geek: and test most of my lever action rifles:
1970s 1894 2 lbs 15 oz (Happy Trigger kit - original trigger was not good)
1990s 1895 LTD 3 lbs 6 oz (a bit of takeup and over-travel; may have been tuned by first owner)
2001 1894 Cowboy Carbine 4 lb. 13 oz (pretty inconsistent but never shot)
1895 Guide Gun 5 lbs. 6 oz (no takeup, short pull, no over-travel and perfect for hunting)
336 Classic 7 lbs. even (good trigger but noticeably stiff - need to address)
Winchester (Miroku) 1892 6 lbs. even (very sweet trigger - feels lighter)
Rossi R95 5 lbs 8 oz (biggest variance hi/lo at over a pound; break not the cleanest)
Winchester Model 64 (1949) 3 lbs. 12 oz. (not quite crisp but very consistent)
Browning BLR (current production) 5 lbs 7 oz

This was an interesting exercise for me. For hunting, I would rate the old Winchester Deer Rifle #1 with the 1895 Guide Gun #2. The Miroku trigger also is very nice - consistent, short pull, crisp. The older 1894 is too light for anything other than plinking/targets but there was a reason I replaced the factory trigger years ago (Can’t remember exactly what though). The BLR surprised me a bit. It’s got a bit of takeup and doesn’t seem as crisp as some of the others. Never bothered me before. The R95 has the “worst” trigger of the bunch qualitatively but I would call it bad. Finally, I’ve only shot the 336 a couple of times and didn’t really notice the trigger pull but it really is a bit too stout.
 
#11 ·
There are always going to be those folks who complain about looks over functionality, most, if not, all of the time. It's like listening to a broken record. And I ask myself, are they buying the rifle for looks or to actually use it. Nothing is ever going to be perfect regardless of who manufactures the product. I have 2 JM built Marlins. And I can assure anyone they are not perfect. They are utility rifles built for hunting out in the field and not sit over the mantle to be admired. The way I see it, if a person is so worried about fit and finish, then don't buy it. Doesn't matter who or where it was made. Then you won't have nothing to complain about. And I'm not talking about scratches or gouges on wood or metal. I mean I have literally read where people complain about the metal to wood fit not being perfectly lined up or just a tad to big of a gap between wood and metal. Even read complaints about the checkering. Yes, I do take pride in my rifles looking good. But at the end of the day, they have to work to bring down game. They don't have to look perfect doing it.
 
#14 ·
I have handled, shot, wrote about every new Ruger made Marlin produced so far. The quality of parts functioning as designed, fit & finish have been extremely good. Accuracy (or repeatable group sizes) has also been very good with their hammer forged rifling.

The engineering team at the Mayodan, NC plant have really done an excellent job of improving/updating the tech data package for each model. Nobody is perfect, machines fail, assembly technicians get tired and over worked however with all that said - the team is putting out quality-built rifles from the very beginning. Their eye is on quality before quantity.
 
#19 ·
… none are flawless 100% of the time except maybe the Westley-Richards and Holland & Hollands worth hundreds of thousands $ … some brands are better than others … the mrsp is the best predictor of quality … on the other end of the quality scale if you’ve owned and fixed the bugs in 3 Rossis you’re pretty well on your way to becoming a gunsmith
 
#26 ·
@3crows : "I try not to purchase rifles or guns of any sort that I have not put my hands on or a trusted person at minimum."

Ah, different worlds. ;) Living on the edge of nowhere and not being able to drive anyplace either, I've purchased maybe 20 guns in the past decade, mostly on GunBroker, all sight unseen and not held by me until it was paid for and in my possession some weeks later. Thus far I have yet to have a single gun that disappointed me. The only one that had any issue at all was my MXLR: it had (has) barrel droop. But once I got past the fact it does, and found a scoping solution to it, it has been my pride and joy, and my most relied upon gun.

Sometimes I envy you folks who can actually hold and evaluate a gun before you purchase it. For some of us... that's just not how we are able to roll.
 
#32 ·
@3crows : "I try not to purchase rifles or guns of any sort that I have not put my hands on or a trusted person at minimum."

Ah, different worlds. ;) Living on the edge of nowhere and not being able to drive anyplace either, I've purchased maybe 20 guns in the past decade, mostly on GunBroker, all sight unseen and not held by me until it was paid for and in my possession some weeks later. Thus far I have yet to have a single gun that disappointed me. The only one that had any issue at all was my MXLR: it had (has) barrel droop. But once I got past the fact it does, and found a scoping solution to it, it has been my pride and joy, and my most relied upon gun.

Sometimes I envy you folks who can actually hold and evaluate a gun before you purchase it. For some of us... that's just not how we are able to roll.
Yeah, but you probably to get to hunt moose!
 
#28 · (Edited)
@AK_Taxidermist, I would not be concerned to purchase a Ruger Marlin sight unseen. I own two and have held a number and gotten to shoot the new .44 1894. Each one of them has been acceptable to me and I am sort of particular. If there is an issue then Ruger will take care of you.
 
#29 ·
I have handled all the new Ruger/Marlins, from the SBL to the latest 357 and the fit and finish has been nice. They cycle nice and smooth and handle well. I like the feel of the gun. A friend is going to the shot show next week, and I asked him if he can stop at the booth and see if anything new is coming up.

I was waiting for the new 1894 in 44 Rem. Mag to hit the store and when it did this past November, I picked one up. Another well made gun. I have no issues with the new Ruger/Marlins.

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#34 · (Edited)
... I think the Remlin debacle made cynics of a lot of us and rightfully so ... back in the day there was some pride in product name and workmanship and at the very least a rudimentary level of quality control on the gun factory production lines ... for other than custom gun manufacturers today's paradigm is to get as much product out the door as fast and as cheaply as possible ... NO dealer level money back warranty NO sight unseen purchases
 
#35 ·
... I think the Remlin debacle made cynics of a lot of us and rightfully so ... back in the day there was some pride in product name and workmanship and at the very least a rudimentary level of quality control on the gun factory production lines ...
I'm of the mind of fixing anything old to avoid buying new. A lot of things are now built with planned obsolescence, and many are complete junk out of the gate. Appliances that used to last 40 years, now you are lucky to get 5 out of them. I don't want more bells and whistles... I want reliability and longevity!
 
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#49 ·
correct.....Remington almost ruined marlin for good. Ruger is building them right. I have owned literally 100's of Marlin rifles, originals, remlins, and Rugers. I remove the cbs, don't need a can or a brake on the end of my barrel, however the threaded barrels are a big deal to many buyers. to each there own I suppose. probably why the only marlins I own now are original jm stamped versions. Ruger is defiantly building them right and thank God the greedy ignorant clowns at Remington are out of the picture.
 
#51 ·
... don't know about Ruger/Marlin cornering the market ... there are some serious contenders in the levergun mfg arena ... Henry, Rossi, Chiappa, Miroku ... neither Ruger nor Henry have entered the 92 clone market and now Rossi and Chiappa are building quality 92 clones ... I don't know how to classify the Miroku so-called Winchester levergun clones as they differ significantly from the JMB design with their lawyer safeties and rebounding hammers and are very expensive
 
#56 ·
I have a 2024 Ruger-Built 1894C (.357), and it is beautiful! Fit and finish are better than expected. Smooth action, and getting better (only 300 rounds, so far). I installed a Ranger Point Precision cloverleaf peep site, to aid my aging eyes, and am very happy with it. I also have owned a Rossi r92 SRC, in 357 Magnum. That was a very disappointing gun. Before the smithing work I did on it, it was rough and gritty all the time. I have owned a Henry 357 H012GRCC (pre loading gate) carbine big boy and regret trading it ever since. Just recently picked up the H012GMCC, color case hardened 357 20-in barrel rifle. Both Henry's are/were beautiful and extremely well made. I know they are not historically correct to any particular lever gun of the past, but they shoot well, look fantastic, and are as smooth as butter. I also have a Henry Repeating Arms 1860, a Cimmaron 1866 Yellow Boy, and a Cimmaron 1873 Texas Brush Popper, all three in 44WCF. Love my lever guns! I shoot them all for 'therapy'... I'm not a gun snob, but know what I like.
 
#57 ·
The various Box Stores I was able to even find an actual Ruger Marlin for sale was a task. The ones I handled showed very good wood to metal fitting. The finishes were well done, and the overall appearance shows very good quality machining & assembly. Although it was odd to have the end of the barrel threaded, along with a thread protector on it. I can see the point if some wanted to go pew- pewing silently. However, I'm sure the "purists" are aghast at that notion.
I was also at a Gun Show 2 months ago where a few tables had Ruger Marlins for sale at quite a mark up. Out of courtesy, I politely asked if I could pick each one up to inspect them. They all resembled the same quality I saw at the Box Stores. Of course I wish I could have tried them out on a Range to test the accuracy. Perhaps I will purchase one, and give a full report & review here.
At this point it seems like Marlin is in good hands with Ruger. I only wish they bought us 17 years ago. I'd still be working there.

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