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Quick question.........is shipping ammunition very expensive, such as hazmat charges, etc ?
Shipping is expensive and there is no hazmat fee like there is for powder. I found on Ammo Seek Hornady Superformance ammo in .444 Marlin with the 265 grain FP for less than $40 per box. By the time shipping cost ($14.95 for Fed Ex Ground) and tax was added in the cost was $105. So shipping adds to the cost but at least I can find what I'm looking for when no local shops have any ammo I use.
 
It's funny: I don't know of a single Ohio hunter who complains about the SWC rules. But I've heard griping and complaining from folks like yourself who live in other states. Maybe the Ohio legislators know more about their constituents than y'all do.
Well that could be because before you weren't even allowed to use a rifle at all to deer hunt in OH. Before it was shotgun or muzzle loader only right? I for one would be one complaining to them about it all the time if I lived there.
 
I’m late to the party. I’m happy they make the 360 Buckhammer. No I’m not in a straight wall state. 1st it will mean more .358 rifle bullets in the mix. 2nd it uses the higher pressure 30-30 case which gives the 360 higher velocity than the 35 Remington. I’ll probably buy one just for fun. I still have a 35 Remington and love it. Also have a lifetime supply of ammo brass and bullets 😏
 
Lol. Ohio is a far redder state politically than NC. All of the executive branch is Republican, and the GOP holds supermajorities in both chambers of the legislature. Plus most of their congressional delegation is Republican. Now compare that to NC.

NC may have "flat areas," but most of Ohio is flat. There is nothing like the Smokey Mountains in Ohio.


I have to disagree. The Eastern section of Ohio has plenty of rolling hills from North to South. If you go west of State Route 23 then yes it is flat. As I told the bonehead gamewarden for Morrow County, "If I am sitting 25 feet up in a tree stand shooting down into the ground, what difference does the round make??" He just mumbled something about I was one of the more intelligent hunters he runs into. As an Aside, I use a 50 Alaskan, 50-110 Winchester or 458 Win Mag. for straight wall cartridges. I would much rather use my 35 Remington or 30-30.
 
I have to disagree. The Eastern section of Ohio has plenty of rolling hills from North to South. If you go west of State Route 23 then yes it is flat. As I told the bonehead gamewarden for Morrow County, "If I am sitting 25 feet up in a tree stand shooting down into the ground, what difference does the round make??" He just mumbled something about I was one of the more intelligent hunters he runs into. As an Aside, I use a 50 Alaskan, 50-110 Winchester or 458 Win Mag. for straight wall cartridges. I would much rather use my 35 Remington or 30-30.
Again, there are flaws in your arguments. First of all, I grew up in Jefferson County, about as far east as you can get. Yes, the terrain there would not be a problem for bottleneck cartridges, with all the hills, strip mines, etc. I think I might have made that point earlier. But I've also lived in Knox County for a number of years, and I have/had family in Richland, Morrow, Ashland, etc., so I'm well familiar with that geography. There are some small rolling hills, but for the most part, it's flat, and it gets flatter as you move west. And while you may have a point about shooting down from your tree stand, we both know that many, many hunters shoot from a ground blind, or walking in a deer drive, etc. And those shots will carry way beyond a couple hundred yards, if they miss.

While I live in Kentucky now, I still hunt Ohio from time to time, and I have a number of friends who live and hunt there. None of them have an issue with the SWC regs. None of them.
 
Again, there are flaws in your arguments. First of all, I grew up in Jefferson County, about as far east as you can get. Yes, the terrain there would not be a problem for bottleneck cartridges, with all the hills, strip mines, etc. I think I might have made that point earlier. But I've also lived in Knox County for a number of years, and I have/had family in Richland, Morrow, Ashland, etc., so I'm well familiar with that geography. There are some small rolling hills, but for the most part, it's flat, and it gets flatter as you move west. And while you may have a point about shooting down from your tree stand, we both know that many, many hunters shoot from a ground blind, or walking in a deer drive, etc. And those shots will carry way beyond a couple hundred yards, if they miss.

While I live in Kentucky now, I still hunt Ohio from time to time, and I have a number of friends who live and hunt there. None of them have an issue with the SWC regs. None of them.
I still have a family farm land in Kentucky. Pretty much have hunted there from the 60's. Ohio is only used as a 'fill in' spot ( even though I was raised on a 42 acre farm in Licking County) because of the stupid rules on what you can or can't hunt with put together by stupid politicians who don't know what end of a gun the bullet comes out of. I don't agree with you characterization of the topography at all. And for the rest, we will agree to disagree.
 
Lol. Ohio is a far redder state politically than NC. All of the executive branch is Republican, and the GOP holds supermajorities in both chambers of the legislature. Plus most of their congressional delegation is Republican. Now compare that to NC.

NC may have "flat areas," but most of Ohio is flat. There is nothing like the Smokey Mountains in Ohio.


Pffffft. Rino's.

Luis
 
Again, there are flaws in your arguments. for the most part, it's flat, and it gets flatter as you move west. And while you may have a point about shooting down from your tree stand, we both know that many, many hunters shoot from a ground blind, or walking in a deer drive, etc. And those shots will carry way beyond a couple hundred yards, if they miss.

While I live in Kentucky now, I still hunt Ohio from time to time, and I have a number of friends who live and hunt there. None of them have an issue with the SWC regs. None of them.
Balderdash. How high is the body of a deer? About 3'? How high are you shooting from in a ground blind? About 3'? So, basically parallel to the ground? At 350 yards, a .30-30 is already in the ground (about 42" of drop at that distance). Maybe your argument holds water with a few of the fastest rounds like a .243, .22-250, 7mm mag, .25-06, etc., but most older shouldered cartridges like a .30-30 or .35 Remington are no more dangerous at range than the new 360 Buckhammer, or 350 Legend.

The real question is how much freedom are you willing to give up because some people are irresponsible? You know that as these new cartridges gain acceptance and become commonplace it's only a matter of time until someone accidentally shoots someone else with a 300 Legend or Buckhammer. Are you, at that point, ready to give up your firearms since it's been proven that they can kill someone unintentionally?

Luis
 
I'm sure the law was to limit it pistol rounds like 357 and 44 mag ect. That is part of the reason 1.8 length was used to rule out 375win, 444, 45-70 and the like. Not saying it's a legit rule but better than shotgun slugs.

I'm sure they didn't think ammo companies would jump in with the 350 legend and 360 BHMR. Capitalism at its best! Can you see there faces when the first 350 showed up in an AR15 of all things? PRICELESS!! I'm sure they didn't even know the 450 bushmaster even existed.

Gun people are very resourceful. Wildcats showed there was a market and companies jumped on it. Good for them. Good for us! It's a step up for some states compared to what they had. If you dont want it, don't buy it. It's that simple. In the meantime keep supporting the 2A and fighting for your constitutional rights, teach someone to respect life, shoot responsibly and take them hunting.

John
 
THIS. IMO, they're going to produce nothing but "classic" 30-30's until they think they are approaching market saturation for this caliber/model before they start producing anything else. As long as it's selling for MSRP+, it would be foolish to do anything else.

Luis
That was exactly what I was thinking. They are, in the end, trying to make the most money. It will be nice when they do reintroduce the .35 caliber version. I currently have a 1980 year manufactured one. Before they went downhill with Winchester.
 
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