Howdy all,
I just checked the Ruger/Marlin website for updates, and noticed the 336 listing has changed from saying "chambered in .30-30 and .35 Remington" to just "chambered in .30-30".

I don't know if this is because it is currently only chambered in .30-30, or because they are weighing up their options with the release of Remingtons new .360 Buckhammer i.e. they may be looking at demand before deciding what .358 caliber to chamber the 336 in. See here: Lever-Action (marlinfirearms.com)
Cheers,
Moisy

I was thinking to myself(selfishly), that that would be a good idea.

 

They could sell both, no problem. At the present time, people are waiting.

 

Agreed. Whether they will go to the expense of manufacturing both is the question.

 

That’s a very interesting point…..uh oh.

 

It's mere speculation on my part but I imagine Ruger will concentrate on producing as many quality 336 rifles in .30-30 as possible before reducing production numbers by offering different chamberings.

 

THIS. IMO, they're going to produce nothing but "classic" 30-30's until they think they are approaching market saturation for this caliber/model before they start producing anything else. As long as it's selling for MSRP+, it would be foolish to do anything else.

Luis

 

I've noticed the descriptions/wording on the website has changed with each model as it's been introduced, so maybe it's just the website only showing what's currently being made. Maybe they'll make them, maybe they won't. Time will tell. I hope they do to compete with Henry. There must be at least some demand for the 35 or Henry wouldn't be making them. I wonder how many 35's Henry has sold.

 

It's probably a good thing all of us don't work for Ruger right now as we would likely be tooling up for some cool leverguns.
Imagination aside, I would certainly be interested in a new 336 in 35 Rem. A 35 Rem is a viable big game caliber within 150+ yds, carried by an experienced woodsman/hunter.

 

A 35 Rem is a viable big game caliber within 150+ yds, carried by an experienced woodsman/hunter.

I'm glad you put that "+" in there!

 

My thoughts? I don’t see any reason why they would stray very far from .30-30 to build anything other than 360 BH for straight wall states. There is a lot of love for .35 Rem amongst levergun “nerds”, but if you ask 99% of the general Hunter population what caliber lever actions are, they will say .30-30 Win. As Jeeper said, until sales of .30-30 and .360BH slow, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

We can all dream of the glory days, but it might take a long while to get there again.

 

We'll never get back to the glory days. While we mostly all agree that the 35 Rem is a good cartridge, the fact that the ammo manufacturers only make limited runs of it every year so should tell us that there is limited demand out there. And there are plenty of used rifles on the market. Given the hunting regs changes allowing straight wall rounds, I'm guessing that if/when Ruger adds another chambering to the 336 series, it will be something like new Win/Rem 35 caliber rounds.

I would love to see Savage bring back the M99 levers but it ain't going to happen. I'm hoping that Ruger will make a nice classic 39A but I'm not betting any of my retirement bucks on it.

 

Howdy all,
I just checked the Ruger/Marlin website for updates, and noticed the 336 listing has changed from saying "chambered in .30-30 and .35 Remington" to just "chambered in .30-30".

I don't know if this is because it is currently only chambered in .30-30, or because they are weighing up their options with the release of Remingtons new .360 Buckhammer i.e. they may be looking at demand before deciding what .358 caliber to chamber the 336 in. See here: Lever-Action (marlinfirearms.com)
Cheers,
Moisy

That does not mean that .35 Remington is cancelled. The place holder web page was pre-introduction for what will or might be some day for the 336. The web page there now is for what is currently available, the 336 Classic model in .30-30. At this time the .35 Remington is not available. That is all that means and nothing more.

 

We're not gonna be talked down off the Ledge that easily....

 

Please, do not jump! You are too young to die and have too much to live for, like a new Ruger-Marlin in .35 Remington!

 

The 360 Bh makes more sense. Uses the same bolt face as the 30 30.

DEP

 

Double Post

 

They are watching market trends. The 360 BH makes more logical sense over the 35 Remington given the rise in straightwall only states.

 

I have not looked at the dimensions of the 38 BH compared to 35 Rem. If I wanted a 35 Rem Marlin/Ruger I would just buy the BH and rechamber it to 35 Rem if possible.

If the BH does spur interest in 35 cal maybe more 358 bullets will be available.

I was hoping Ruger would bring back the 219 Zipper too, especially in the Heavy Barrel SC config. And if they are listening chamber it with a shorter throat. I do not think a 70 I will be around to see that.

I think the real killer for the 35 Rem will be the price of BH compared to 35 Rem.

Like the 9mm legend it will probably be available and a LOT less than 35 Rem

 

I'll never buy a buckhumper.........My 35 and 30-30 fill that niche. Would like to see more 35 Rems though. Seems like the 35 Rem was only kept alive with Marlin rifles for the last 20 years.

 

Pretty much how I feel, but I have also seen cartridges killed off by manufacturers. 7mm Mauser based cartridges, the 32 Ws, and the 16ga shotgun are examples. Lack of popularity might be relatared to lack of production. Marketing, which includes gun writers also plays a part. 243 replaced the 25s due to hype.

DEP

 

Maby the straight wall states need too rethink that bad idea.

 

... until they do it's still a fact of life ... that's what happens when people who don't understand guns & ammo, ballistics or wildlife make laws

 

my first deer rifle back in the early 1960's was 336 in 35 rem. I currently have 3, but have no 30-30's, so I guess that would say how I feel about it.
Barry

 

my first deer rifle was a 336 in 35 rem. I currently have 3, but have no 30-30's, so I guess that would say how I feel about it.

My first deer rifle was a .30-30 Win. I currently have 3, but have no .35 Rems, so I guess that would say how I feel about it too.

Both do the same thing, with very similar ballistics, but one does it with guns currently in production, and with ammo readily available at half the cost of the other. I like the concept of the heavy and slightly slower .35 as a brush fighter, but take a look at Henry. They build rifles in a bunch of non-mainstream cartridges. They currently offer 6 rifles in .44-40 WCF, 18 in .45 Colt, 3 in both .327 Fed and .41 Mag, and even a .38-55 offering. We are all very familiar with them, but despite all this diversity in less popular cartridges, they offer only 1 variation in .35 Rem. At least they do have that option for you .35 fans. I think it’s a beautiful rifle too…

Side Gate Lever Action Rifle | Henry Repeating Arms

For the Home and the Field – To Protect and Provide

www.henryusa.com

My point is, if someone who builds as many different varieties of lever guns as Henry does (93 by my count), and they only offer one in .35 Rem, it’s going to be tough sledding to get Ruger building anything but .30-30 and .45-70 an possibly a straight wall 1.8” cartridge for quite some time.

 

I'm not 100% certain about the process. When Ruger hammer forges their barrels, does the mandrel have the chamber too? Is the chamber formed with the barrel rifling? Or do they hammer forge the barrel and use a standard chamber reamer as another step?

I'm referencing the post by @Tomray noting that Ruger would only need a different chamber reamer.

 

I may be off base here, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the 30/30 headspaces off of the rim and since the 360BH uses the 30/30 as the parent case… wouldn’t the same GO/NO GO gauge work for both cartridges?

Remington collaborated with Henry to develop the new 360BH. It is possible that Henry will have exclusive rights to it for the time being.

 

Remington collaborated with Henry to develop the new 360BH. It is possible that Henry will have exclusive rights to it for the time being.

The 360 BHMR is a SAAMI cartridge. Anyone can chamber for it at anytime.

John

 

Well, I hope not.

 

30-30 ammo is still no where to be had here in mid TN. I imagine 35 R will take alot longer to see factory boxes on the shelves. All this talk about new this and that is senseless untill there is ammo on the shelves. No rhyme or reason.... loads of various 350 legend but zero on the formentioned. Who's going to buy a 35 when a box of ammo is $80 bucks if/when you find it?

 

30-30 ammo is still no where to be had here in mid TN.

triggerman -

Check Federal Ammunition online. They list both 150gr and 170gr Powershock as available with no apparent limit. Order online and they have some sort of free item promotion going on right now but I didn't pay too much attention to what the promotional items were.

I have always had good results with Federal Powershock ammo in both 150gr and 170gr.

May be worth looking into.

 

Quick question.........is shipping ammunition very expensive, such as hazmat charges, etc ?

 

No hazmat charges on ammunition, like it is for components. I always say hazmat charges are a crock, especially for that reason. Loaded ammunition has the same components in it, but no extra charge. But if I order a pound of powder I have to pay regular shipping, plus $20-25 hazmat charge. Even after people have tried to explain its justification to me six ways to Sunday, I still don't buy it.

 

And for the record, I think the .35 and .30-30 are both great cartridges for deer hunting. The whole thing is as big a dead end argument as Ford vs Chevy (especially to a Mopar guy🤣).

I also suspect that 3 Crows (is that a murder, or just a homicide) may be right and they have just adjusted the website to reflect what they currently have on offer, from the earlier “we are planning to build…”. Only time will tell.

 

Removed the 35 Remington from the 336... hummm Not even a "coming soon" Well... Expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

 

I will be very upset if they do not produce a blued walnut 336 in 35 rem. That is the one ruglin I would be willing to pay for and I have ZERO interest in that 360 abomination.

 

Sold my last 35 and gave my brass to a member here. Still have some bullets...but
Kept my 375. If you don't have one..look. If you do, enjoy.