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Remington Model 14 or 141

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#1 ·
While I have a Marlin 336A in 35 Rem, the Remington pump guns seem to hold an attraction.
Looking for insight from actual owners. Which do you prefer and why? Do you really notice the difference in barrel length? Not looking at carbines.
Looking at 35 Rem since I already have the reloading gear. And 30 Rem brass and dies are hard to find and expensive.
Thanks,
 
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If your eyes are good---either Remington pump will work (I owned both models when my eyes were still sharp). If you need a scope these days (like me), can't beat a Rem Mod 760/7600.
 
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I had a very nice M760 (1952) in .35 Rem that loved the Hornady 200gr LE fodder. Great rifle, but at the time I still preferred my 336ERs, my 3 Whelens and my steel receiver BLR in .358, so it ultimately went down the road to a very grateful new owner. So, don't forget to search 760s as well for a .35 pump. Heck, you might even find a 7600 in .35 Whelen or a 750 Carbine in .35Whelen during your search.

Good luck 👍
 
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I have a 141, many years now. hunt with it some, my rainy day gun. it is a 35. was in rough shape when I got it, but did not pay much for it. end of the barrel was rusty, so I had it cut and recrowned. only lost about 1/2 inch. also had no but pad, not much to take care of that. and it was drilled and tapped, weaver bases over a alum. ship. is solid and does not move. think I gave $125.00 for it.
Barry
 
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I have a 141 and 760 in .35 Rem. At any given time you will see at least a dozen 141 models in 35 Remington on gunbroker. They are much less pricey than the 760 which is much much less pricey than the 7600. I would think you could get a nice 141 In the $600-700 range or around there if you are patient. Very accurate rifle that is not factory equipped to accommodate a scope so you'll need to get a peep or use the factory thin rear bladed sight. They are quite cool. By the way I load exactly the same (powder weight, COAL, projectile weight) for my 35s whether Marlin or Rem, and only use the spire points in the 760 loads.
 
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Was at the LGS on Friday - Kid walks in with a Rem 141 in .35. He says to the guy at the desk if he knows anything about the gun and could he tell him if the gun still works. . .
The family found it in grandpa's closet when cleaning the house after he recently passed. . . Nobody knew that grandpa had a rifle. . .
The LGS test fired it - everything worked fine. Gun was in about 95% condition. . .
Would you be interested in selling? ? ? Nope! Darn anyway. . .
LGS happens to have 2 - 141's on the consignment rack - One in .30 and the other in .32 - both way over-priced

Wish I had a Rem pump in .35!
 
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I’ve always wanted one ( model 14/141)
I recall being at gun shows throughout the early 2000s and passing on a few here and there. Those were good times. You could buy a JM 336 for 350.00 in good shape.
The REM model 14 and later 141 is a rifle that hat forever has intrigued me, especially that twisted spiral magazine tube.
 
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I have two 141s and one 14. All chambered in 35 Rem. I like them all. I was always enamored by the twist magazine tube when I was a kid. I also have two 760 Gamemasters in 300 Savage and one in 35 Rem. The pumps are fast and handy. I took a very nice Whitetail buck a few years back with one of the 141s. - T.S.
 
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I bought a Rem 14 in 30 Rem area years ago. If you are like me, you can't use your right arm/leg (stroke), why did you buy it!? I bought it cuz I like the fluted magazine tube!!! 30 Rem brass is rare, but fortunatly Grafs had two 50 round cases and I snapped them up along with Lee dies and shell holder.

Although I read you can take the 6.8SPC or the 224 Valkerie brass and make it a 30 Rem, but I never tried it.
 
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Don’t waste your time. Cases made from the 6.8 SPC will be 0.373” too short, so no neck on the resulting .30 Remington case. The Valkyrie case is even shorter, but both do have the correct case diameter.


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I made 6.5 Creedmoor cases from 22-250 brass. It was short too, I don't remember if it .2 or .3" short. I used 6.5/22-250 cases for years until Hornady brought them out 2014 I think.
 
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Rem 141 like the Marlin 336A featured a longer (24 inch) barrel, that back in the day before scopes, was preferred by rifleman for comparatively precise long fire over a carbine, the longer barrel allowing a finer sight picture and a bit more velocity. Today, scopes show the same long or short barrel, so shorter barrels have come to be dominate the lever gun world. If you prefer iron/peep sights, the longer barrel is a distinct advantage if sneaking a shot thru a tight brush window or reaching out on longer shots.
 
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I have never had reason to try this, but am told by an older friend, if you keep the trigger pulled back and keep pumping, it will keep firing.
Barry
That's called "slam fire". i don't know about Remington 14's or 141's other than they have always looked really cool to me, but the Colt Lightning Magazine Rifle was, I believe , the first slam fire pump rifle produced in the USA. The Winchester 1897 pump shotgun and, perhaps, the Ithaca 37 are also slam fire firearms.
 
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The 22-250 cases are shorter than the 6.5CM cases. So I am not supposed to use them? Oops!!! I will go back to 2008 or '09 and tell myself not to use them. I will wait till Hornady makes the cases, should be about 2013 or '14. I will save myself over 2000 loads and I will save the deer too. ;)
 
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I have a 336 35 with the 24 in barrel and would not trade it for a 20 inch. It was scoped when I bought it. Typical 3X9. Replaced it with a 1.5 X4.5 cheap Bushbell. After a few deer and years where it kept its zero, it still wears that scope. Unlike you 35 fans, I would be perfectly content with a 760 in 308 or a 300 Savage in an older rifle.

DEP
 
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…The 22-250 cases are shorter than the 6.5CM cases. So I am not supposed to use them…
What the heck are you going on about? This thread is about cases for the .30 Remington, not modern cartridges. If you do the math you”ll see that using the 6.8 SPC case isn’t going to work because the resulting .30 Remington case will have no neck.

You are the only one talking about the 6.5 CM, not me. Take a deep breath and go pet a puppy.



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#32 ·
71R,
Here in PA the Rem 760 still dominates the deer woods. I think at one time someone made an 8 or 10 round magazine for them. I can always tell someone shooting a Rem 760 at running deer... Five quick shots together.
Like virtually everyone else here, I owned a Model 760 in 30-06. Darned thing recoiled well beyond the caliber. And I shoot 12 gauge slugs, 50-70 Sharps, and top end 45-70.
I had a friend who called it his "pick up your hat" gun. Recoil always seemed to cause his hat to fall off. But he was almost bald so that may have helped.
 
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That's a great story. I generally hunt a friend's property in Bradford County with an M760 in .270 that I've hunted with for 43 years and counting. Personally, the recoil has never bothered me much, but as always YMMV.
That old girl (it was made in 1952) has given me a lifetime's worth of memories.

Carry on!
 
#33 ·
I have to get to a LGS that is also a gunsmith to pick up a rifle getting sling swivels. They are my best chance at finding one that is anywhere near me.
I won't be the one to do it up a rifle already drilled and tapped for a scope would be best due to our antler restrictions here in PA. I learned my lesson a couple of times trying to confirm antler count with binoculars then switching over to open sighted rifle.
I still won't go into the woods without the binoculars though.