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Re 39a steel scope base

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#1 ·
G'day from Downunder . :hello:

G'day All , I am looking for help in finding a steel scope base or base & ring combo for my newly aquired 39a century rifle , I suppose this has been asked before but my computer abilities are lower than a snake's belly so I thought I best ask for help ( please )

Regards Paul . :)
 
#6 · (Edited)
I have one on my 39A but don't realy like the way this aluminum Weaver type base from Marlin cantilevers out over the barrel.If you look close you can see I have the hangie-over part suported by the rear sight elevator.I have had no problem with this set up in 25 years.

Here comes the however.

However,my alltime favorite mount for the 39A is on my Mountie,is the Williams all steel "QD"mount and ring set-up that makes full contact with the receiver AND barrel for the full length of the base.But like most of the stuff I favor,it's out of production.


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#8 ·
G'day from Downunder .

G'day All , thank you for your replys and to mudpuppy for the pic's , I belive in using steel where possible by choice at 62 years old I come from a school of thought that steel is real , I know that there is nothing wrong with alloy but my preferences lean to steel .
I will continue my search or I will have my machinist make me a compact one for weaver rings in steel of course .

Regards Paul .
 
#9 ·
Pauly,here is a picture of an early steel mount from Marlin.It's what used to be the standard 39A mount,it's actualy a screw-on 3/8 dovetail base for 3/4 inch scopes of the day.It is just so short there ain't much flexibility in a ring system except the old Weaver 3/8 "Tip-Off" mount>If it's legal??? I can mail you this mount free of charge if it's what you need.
 
#11 ·
Steel 39 Mount

Pauly,here is a picture of an early steel mount from Marlin.It's what used to be the standard 39A mount,it's actualy a screw-on 3/8 dovetail base for 3/4 inch scopes of the day.It is just so short there ain't much flexibility in a ring system except the old Weaver 3/8 "Tip-Off" mount. View attachment 29476
I have the steel one on my 39D with a old Redfield 3/4 4x 22 rimfire scope. It works good for the short scope.
 
#13 ·
G'day from Downunder .
G'day All , I am looking for help in finding a steel scope base or base & ring combo for my newly aquired 39a century rifle , I suppose this has been asked before but my computer abilities are lower than a snake's belly so I thought I best ask for help ( please )

Regards Paul . :)
They exist, I have one, it's factory-supplied. The problem with it is that it's made for 1950's rimfire pencil scopes. It's just receiver length and modern scopes are configured to have the rings spaced farther apart, at least on a 39, in order to get the right eye position. Steel really isn't needed in this application, there is no recoil it has to withstand. Going to a Weaver-style base gets a lot more options for rings and scopes than the 3/8" dovetail mount. Marlin later supplied a two-step base that accepts both the 3/8" dovetail and the Weaver-style rings. I currently have a compact scope mounted using that mount, it doesn't stick way out over the barrel. But it's aluminum. You could machine one in steel, if you just gotta. Brownell's supplies blank lengths of steel Weaver rail, for a price, I've used them.

What I'd really like for the 39 is one of the Browning/Redfield rimfire scopes, they were scaled to rimfire dimensions, saw a couple this last weekend. Unfortunately, they were attached to Browning semi-autos priced at $1K+. Kind of expensive to buy just for the scope.

Stan S.
 
#14 ·
I recently outfitted my 39a with an all-steel mount and ring setup from Conetrol, a small company located in Seguin, TX.

PROS
Best looking 39a mounting system available today, IMHO
No seams or screws visible in the rings. They are machined to look seamless.
Strong as strong
Unique and rare. You won't find these at Sportsman's Warehouse -- or your local gun shop for that matter.

CONS
The install required some finesse and patience on my part. Some have described the install with stronger words.
More expensive than the Leupold STD mounts I typically use, which ain't too thrifty.

Does anyone else have experience with Conetrol? I have never met anyone who has these mounts, but stumbled across them in a forum search months ago in an attempt to find a sleek all-steel mounting system for the 39a. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go with something more utilitarian. But this 39a was the first gun I ever purchased, and I wanted it to look sleek, strong and durable.


 
#16 ·
I recently outfitted my 39a with an all-steel mount and ring setup from Conetrol, a small company located in Seguin, TX.

PROS
Best looking 39a mounting system available today, IMHO
No seams or screws visible in the rings. They are machined to look seamless.
Strong as strong
Unique and rare. You won't find these at Sportsman's Warehouse -- or your local gun shop for that matter.

CONS
The install required some finesse and patience on my part. Some have described the install with stronger words.
More expensive than the Leupold STD mounts I typically use, which ain't too thrifty.

Does anyone else have experience with Conetrol? I have never met anyone who has these mounts, but stumbled across them in a forum search months ago in an attempt to find a sleek all-steel mounting system for the 39a. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go with something more utilitarian. But this 39a was the first gun I ever purchased, and I wanted it to look sleek, strong and durable.
Conetrol has been around for decades, I've only ever seen them on high-end custom rifles. Had no idea they were available for 39s, but since it's a semi-custom setup, it doesn't surprise me. Probably could get the guy to machine a set for just about anything, price is high enough. No one stocks them, they couldn't afford to(don't lose parts!). And even that mount doesn't allow a whole lot of adjustment back and forth. Glad it worked out for you.

Stan S.
 
#15 ·
Redfield and Leupold used to make the "standard" rotary dovetail base that accepted the rotary dovetail "standard" rings all made of steel, for the 39. However, I just checked Brownells site, and they are no longer listed. If you can find the Redfield or Leupold bases, they are quite well made and highly polished blue. They're quite rugged and have a really nice appearance. Those Conetrol rings and base shown above are really, really good as well.
 
#17 · (Edited)
I hear you about the "Real Steel". That little aluminum base with the rubbery extension hanging out over the barrel just didn't do it for me. My rifle lost zero easily with that base, and required re-adjustment every time it went to the range. In fact, the only thing that I found I could count on was that it wouldn't hold zero. I could take my thumb and "Flex" the whole thing easily. That aluminum base just wasn't rigid enough. Sure, that mount works O.K. for the small 3/4" tube that people were using in the '70s... But I like to be able to see what I'm shooting at and I prefer a full size scope. I fought with it for months, and tried several combinations of bases and rings. And then I found this. DNZ Game Reaper scope mounts golf cart locks, Game Reaper Quiver Keeper Lock a Cart But there wasn't one for the 39. I went back and forth with the guy a few times in emails, and he designed and built a Game Reaper mount for my model 39.
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It's a one piece mount. Yeah, it's made of aluminum, but it's chunky and stout.
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My rifle holds zero now. I can count on it. I take it to the range and it drops rounds right where it's supposed to... Every time. I haven't taken the scope adjuster caps off in so long I can't remember the last time I found a need to adjust it. It's been a couple years now. The one piece design is far more rigid than a clamp, and because it's machined as one piece the alignment of the rings is not movable. If you are wanting to mount a full size scope on your 39, this is the way to go.