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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
The old Savage 24 in 22/20ga makes a perfect rig when you have the opportunity to hunt multiple species of small game in the same hunt. The 22/410 not so much, the 410 limits your shotgun to close range. The models with 22 mag are a little much for most small game. The 22 barrels on the old soldered barrel models are good accurate shooters and rifle and shotgun barrels will shot to the same point of aim.

This isn't so with some of the later separated barrel models. For squirrel, you can flip it to 20g if they are in the thick where you can't bead them with the rifle barrel and if you live where squirrel, rabbit, grouse and turkey overlap you are ready for anything. Also handy to pop the occasional groundhog or fox you may run across. I like to carry mine when rabbit hunting with dogs. On those days they are looping around I have shot more with the 22 than the shotgun.

My wife killed her 1st deer with a 24 in 22/410 that I had scoped for her. She was on a stand and made a classic heart shot at 30yds and that's about the same distance it traveled after being hit. Around here the old 24s command top dollar prices and you can't give one
of those new "things" away, they are total junk.
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
When I lived in Virginia there was some overlap between small game & deer, so I used my Campers Companion 22LR/20ga.

Squirrels for the 22LR - but Bambi was just a bit too smart that time... oh well, the 20 ga slug would have done the job - if I did mine!
 
#7 ·
I have had one in 22/20 and one in 22/410.
I liked the 410 better but to each his own.
I used it squirrel hunting a lot.
I wish I had it back. I can't even remember now
what I swapped it off for.

Nowdays, out of all the small game rifles I have
I carry an old Stevens Crackshot more than anything.
 
#8 ·
Something like that would be a great combo - you're 100% correct!

Lacking a combo gun, I find myself with a dilemma while grouse hunting in our local mountains. It's also bear season...

Do I hunt grouse with a .22 pistol (legal here) and carry a rifle for black bear?

Do I hunt grouse with a .22 rifle or a shotgun, and carry a .44 mag revolver for black bear?

Last year I hunted grouse with my recurve bow, and carried a .44 revolver... It didn't seem any better compromise than the other choices.

Your combo rifle/shotgun might have solved my problem!

Guy
 
#13 · (Edited by Moderator)
I know a guy that has one in 357max/20ga, the only one I've ever seen. I think they were made in the 80's. The last ones they made in 223/12ga were very poor quality. They developed excessive head space and I've seen the barrel bands crack from barrel warp when fired. That was about the end of the road for Savage when they went under before being reorganized around the 110 series rifle.
 
#17 ·
I have a mystery combination gun in .22H/410 (3") German or Austrian I believe it is marked Lux 451. I useful piece of kit for a game keeper it weighs in at 5 1/2 lbs built on the monoblock principle the barrels are aluminium with steel tubes with the barrel selector on the hammer it has a half cock safety. It also has a bullet trap in the underside of the stock for 2 of each .22H/.410. Any information would be greatly received; Gareth.
 

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Scopes on 24's has always been a problem. They are not supposed to be used with a scope when firing the shotgun. Speaking only about the 22/22 Mag models, have seen all kinds of scope mounts from Bubba's to some fine work.

My Smith silver soldered a steel "rib" on top to mount bases on. Another guy was machining aluminum blocks that slid on over 22 barrel and were held with set screws on both sides. The early guns were Stevens and they were 410 only and weren't grooved for scopes and they were the ones with Tenite stocks as an option. The 20ga guns are 3" and that is a sharp recoil to move a scope. The 410's would hold fairly well if your rings were steel. The aluminum rings would start to "walk" if shotgun was used a lot. I had a set of Redfield rings that worked well but they got "lost", I have been told Warn is making a steel set that will work.
 
#21 · (Edited by Moderator)
Scopes on 24's has always been a problem. They are not supposed to be used with a scope when firing the shotgun. Speaking only about the 22/22 Mag models, have seen all kinds of scope mounts from Bubba's to some fine work.

My Smith silver soldered a steel "rib" on top to mount bases on. Another guy was machining aluminum blocks that slid on over 22 barrel and were held with set screws on both sides. The early guns were Stevens and they were 410 only and weren't grooved for scopes and they were the ones with Tenite stocks as an option. The 20ga guns are 3" and that is a sharp recoil to move a scope. The 410's would hold fairly well if your rings were steel. The aluminum rings would start to "walk" if shotgun was used a lot. I had a set of Redfield rings that worked well but they got "lost", I have been told Warn is making a steel set that will work.have been told Warn is making a steel set that will work.
the later ones were grooved / D&T for scope bases.
I would suggest a red dot - plenty of eye relief there. :beer:
 
#23 ·
I have had several Savage 24's and think very highly of them. Gave grandson a 24V .30-30/12 ga. should be able to hunt anything around with that. Sold a .223/12 ga to a local guy who hunts coyotes, now he's ready for them far away or running right at him and the call. I have also had 222/20, 22 wmr/20 and 22 lr/20 traded or sold them all. I now have a Savage 42 .22lr/.410 which is my small game/ woods walking gun. Almost weightless and more than accurate enough for my purposes. I did change the rear sight to a Skinner peep which makes it a whole lot better, the sights on all the 24's I have had sucked and needed changing.
 
#24 ·
My daddy (yes I'm from the south) won a Stevens 22/410 soon after his return home from WWII. He gave it to me on my eight birthday. I got many of my firsts with that little gun, squirrel, rabbit, ****, and at just a few days into my eleventh year a little buck Whitetail (410 slug). My grandson now has it! memtb
 
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#27 ·
The timing of this thread can't just be a coincidence. There is 1 sitting in the office of my LGS that just came in on a package trade deal. I've been working up there the past few days, and keep picking it up and thinking; This would make the ultimate small game gun. What is this rifle worth, as it hasn't been priced up yet, and I might want to make an offer before it gets priced up. With my working at the shop, I do get really good pricing.
Thanks for any ideas ya'll may have!