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#1 ·
Back when I was a kid I had one, but somewhere along the line I sold it. I ended up buying a brand new 39A with the longer barrel and pistol grip. I love that old 39A and I still have it today. I just pulled it out (the39A) and checked and it seems I bought it new in 1981 and that sounds about right.

I always regreted selling my 39M and have been looking for a replacement for a very long time. The only ones I seemed to find were the Mountie. I really don't know the difference because the Mountie and the Original Golden 39M seem to be identical, at least to my eye.

Now this brings me to the 39M. About a month ago I spot one for sale in my local pawn shop. Upon closer inspection it looked a little rough. Some light surface rust in places. It's missing the flip up rear sight. It had a piece of crap old Vortex scope missing an adjustment cap. The forend had a gouge in it. It basically looked like it got shoved in a closet and neglected. The serial number starts with 2222 (1978?) and it does NOT have a warning on the barrel. The shop had a price of $400 on it, so I offered $300. I know the owner quite well but he said no. Well, a few days ago I run into him at the mall and he says if I still want it I could have it for $300. I went to his shop a couple days later and he still had it so I bought it for $326 including tax and the "call".

When I got it home, I tore it down all the way and did a deep clean on it. I have refurbished a lot of different guns over the years, so I didn't have high hopes for this one. To my surprise, this little Marlin came out much better than I expected. All of the rust came off with very little work. There is virtually no pitting and no bluing missing. It functions perfect! The wood needs to be redone because someone already tried to refinish it but they had no idea what they were doing. I will refinish the stock and I have already purchased a new forend and rear sight blade for it. I removed the cheesy scope and also have the screw blanks coming to fill the holes from the scope mount.

The gun is labeled Original Golden 39M and has no warning. When I get the couple of pieces for it and get the wood done, it will be like new and will be every bit as nice as my 39A is. My 39A is all original and the 39M will have a couple of replacement parts and refinished wood, but all in all I am super happy with my new old 39M! I feel really lucky to have found one for such a good price that turned out so well!

Now, my questions are:
1. Are the Original Golden 39M's that hard to find?
2. Did I get a decent deal on it?
3. What is the difference between the Original Golden 39M and the Mountie?

Thanks all.
 
#3 · (Edited)
It sounds like you got an excellent deal. These days you are lucky to find any decent 39M or Mountie for less than $450. You can look on Gunbroker and see that there are dozens of 39A's for sale and only 5-6 Mounties. Yes, they are a little harder to find. From what I have read, they changed the roll mark from Marlin Golden 39A Mountie to Original Golden 39M in 1972. Marlin introduced the 39D in 1971. It almost makes me wonder if this is why they changed the 39A Mountie to the 39M a year later. 39A, 39D, 39M.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Back in the day, you had a Mountie. Very nice and collectible gun, but also they are quite available. To answer your questions:

1. Are the Original Golden 39M's that hard to find?

Good lord no. There are plenty of them and they continue to fetch prices above brand new guns.

2. Did I get a decent deal on it?

Oh yes. Yes you did.

3. What is the difference between the Original Golden 39M and the Mountie?


20" barrel and a straight grip = Mountie (39M)

24" barrel and curved grip = Original 39A. :)

The wood is easy to refinish. Really, really easy. If the bluing looks good, you can make the wood look good too.
Here's a link to the work I did on my niece's 39A with before and after pics, as you scroll down. That's page 2. Somewhere in that thread are the step by step of what I did with the wood.
http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/rimfires/88843-just-ordered-oxpho-blue-2.html

Here's a pic of the two:

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#9 ·
Wow. This whole time I was reading 39A. Stupid, feeble brain.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Great, thanks fellas! I thought the 39 M and Mountie were the same, but wasn't certain because of how they were marked on the barrel.

Thanks for the refinish advice. I know refinishing isn't difficult, it just takes patience. I have done a dozen or so guns in the last few years. I use both oils and spray on finishes, just depending on how fast I want to get done and how durable it needs to be. I know this isn't a Marlin, but here are a couple of pics of one of my Winchester Super X model 1's I did with Tru-Oil a couple of years ago. There is an extensive refinishing thread about doing this gun over on Shotgun World.






Isn't that wood to die for? :congrats:

Here's a link to that refinish thread. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=136366

Anyways, i will post some pics of my Marlins when done. I also have a model 90 in 16 ga that has some incredible wood on it. It needs to be redone, too.

Thanks again for the replies.
 
#28 ·
Great, thanks fellas! I thought the 39 M and Mountie were the same, but wasn't certain because of how they were marked on the barrel.

Thanks for the refinish advice. I know refinishing isn't difficult, it just takes patience. I have done a dozen or so guns in the last few years. I use both oils and spray on finishes, just depending on how fast I want to get done and how durable it needs to be. I know this isn't a Marlin, but here are a couple of pics of one of my Winchester Super X model 1's I did with Tru-Oil a couple of years ago. There is an extensive refinishing thread about doing this gun over on Shotgun World.
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Isn't that wood to die for? :congrats:

Here's a link to that refinish thread. Tru-Oil refinish completed - with photos/how to REVISED ? Shotgunworld.com

Anyways, i will post some pics of my Marlins when done. I also have a model 90 in 16 ga that has some incredible wood on it. It needs to be redone, too.

Thanks again for the replies.
beautiful wood on that shotgun

and as far as I know, the 39M and Mountie are the same
 
#12 ·
That is some deluxe wood! The figure in the grain is amazing!
 
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#14 ·
Sure. I usually use a polyurethane such as Minwax. I have had very good results with it as long as I am patient and do the right prep work. I recently did a Remington 870 Police with the satin and it turned out really good. Right now I am doing the Marlin 39M with the same stuff only semi gloss. The stock is done, but I am waiting for the for end to get here so I can get it done to match.

I am also mounting a Nikon P-22 scope to it. I originally bought a Simmons 3-9x32, but I decided this gun deserved better. I have had good luck with the cheap Simmons in the past, but for some reason I don't think I own one Simmons anymore. I think for the money the Simmons can't be beat, but for really good guns like this one, I want a really good scope, but not at a Leupold price. Nikon and Burris are my scopes of choice.

Back to finishes. I have used a lot of Minwax quick drying poly, but it does tend to yellow with age, so it's not great on light woods. That's not so important on darker woods like walnut, though. It is a tough and durable finish, but it just doesn't yield the look and depth a good Tru-Oil finish can give. The only issue I have with Tru-Oil is it takes a very long time to get a really level and glossy finish with no grain showing. If you go read the thread I posted on ShotgunWorld, you will realize I am talking about 100 coats or more total using Tru-Oil. There is a lot of sanding where the wood is probably really only wearing 30 coats or so, but that is a TON of work and time. I am talking about many WEEKS. Poly spray ons can give good results in a few days and ready to actually shoot inside of a week.

I know I have a low post count here, but I am not new to guns or Marlins, I am just new to this forum! I have been shooting and collecting for forty years. I shot my first gun in 1965. I still have it! It's an old Winchester single shot handed down to my by my dad. It was his gun when he was a kid, and he's 90!

Anyways, glad to be here. :biggrin:
 
#17 ·
Mine's a square lever.

Mine also cost $325 shipped and transferred (guy had it on Gunbroker under "Pump Shotguns" or something).

Yours is in WAY better condition than mine!

But mine does shoot and shoot well!

Jon
 
#18 ·
You are right OKlever , And to confuse us even more the early Mounties were marked 39A with the rounded levers. What makes me stand firm that they are all Mounties is that Marlin advertised them as Mounties before they were marked so. If Mr. Kenna called them Mounties so will I . Some don't but I do . Lets not forget that the first Mountie had a 24" barrel .

 
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#22 ·
That's an image I stole off the internet, that showed a 39M next to a 39A :) All I have is a 39A, but to take the place of the Mountie, I have a Henry Golden Boy :)
 
#24 ·
From my understanding the mountie was changed to 39M when barrel was made thinner in diameter and the carrier was stamped steel insted of machined metal. I think these changes was made to save money. Have never heard of anyone having a problem due to these changes. The 39 mountie was a very heavy duty 22 rifle
 
#34 ·
From my understanding the mountie was changed to 39M when barrel was made thinner in diameter and the carrier was stamped steel insted of machined metal. I think these changes was made to save money. Have never heard of anyone having a problem due to these changes. The 39 mountie was a very heavy duty 22 rifle
Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't recall ever seeing a stamped steel carrier in a 39 of any sort...............

I know its the day after Christmas, and the Egg Nog supply is woefully low, but I can't recall a stamped carrier in any 39.................But then, I don't know what remington did with the few 39's they tried to make.

AFAIK, the Model 39 is now out of production, and no longer the worlds longest produced rimfire rifle.............and that's remington's fault.........but they'll blame that on North Haven, too................

Tom
 
#30 ·
Gunhugger, that was the BEST pic of the two examples where someone could see the differences :)

Props! :)
 
#31 ·
I have always found it interesting that in Brophys Book it says the designation was changed from 39A Golden Mountie to 39M in 1973. The 39A 39D 39M idea makes since to me. The Marlin catalog talks about a Mountie in the description of the 39M in the 70’s. It also is the same picture with a round lever instead of the 39M square lever for the first couple of years of the 39M. I had to measure a few to see the difference in barrel taper. My 1973 39M and 1960 39A Mountie are the same at the mussel. A 1974 39M was thinner and a 1981 was still thinner. Marlin used rolling changes as they used up old parts. Hope this helps.