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Opinion: The 35 Remington is Going to Die

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I have heard many many times this cartridge or that cartridge is dead...the new 600whizbangsupermagnumdeerassassin is the end all be all blah blah blah, Remember the Remington Etronix gonna take over the world blah blah blah. There were WAAAY to many 35 Remington guns made for it to totally disappear AND this new round means that bullets will be available for the 35 R going into the future. As long as myself, my son. and my grandson are around the 35 Remington will still be going into the woods.
 
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The 350 Buckhammer uses 9mm bullets of .355 diameter and probably many of them will be pointy and unsuitable for tube magazines. I just got 3 boxes of Hornady 200 grain interlock round noses so I think I am set until my dirt nap now. If not I can go back to 200 grain cast. I am shooting my Dad's 1951 waffletop and I take a deer with it every year.
 
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My observations so far.
1. Unfired 35 Rem brass is pretty much vaporware.
2. The nickel-plated brass Hammerdown uses will be of limited value to reloaders.
3. 35 Rem Hammerdown isn't even listed on Federals website anymore.
4. Marlin removed mention of 35 Rem from their website.
5.Vista didn't produce any 200 gr 35 Rem last season yet brought 150 gr back from the dead which has me scratching my head.
6. Winchester stepped up to the plate and produced a run of 200 gr this year.
7. Hornady made a recent run of 200gr FTX.
8. Vista is in cahoots with Henry to promote and sell the 360 Buckhammer, maybe explains their limited 35 Rem production. Vested interest in 360 Buckhammer.

I do see a little hope but it isn't coming from Vista.
 
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It all depends on what Marlin chambers their 336 in. If they go with the buckhammer, there won't be anymore new 35's made. As far as the cartridge dying, theres too many guns and too many people who love it for them to stop making ammo for it.
 
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Ruger would be crazy not to chamber for the Buckhammer. It makes zero business sense to market rifles your customers can't find ammo/components for, or to beat yourself out of sales in straight-wall states. If I was buying my first 35 lever action today, it would definitely be a Buckhammer.

What I would not do is sacrifice my old 35 Remington Texan for any new Ruger, Henry etc. It took me a long time to find one in just this configuration and it shoots great. There's no 35 Remington ammo shortage here.
 
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I generally shoot calibers I like, not what market trends dictate. Finding 35 Remington brass has been an expensive challenge, but it has been rewarding at the same time. I have been able to reliably hit steel at 300 yards with the 200 gr FTX.
 
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"Zombie Calibers"
I like that.
Like 17WSM, 32-20, 25-20, 218Bee, of course, the 35Rem.
38-58 more like "I'm not dead yet".
[/QUOTE here is another Bee lover too. Also like the hornet. What is your favorite load for Bee? Would like to get a .219 Donaldson wasp in a bolt action. Look at most of other things on the market from years ago are coming back .
 
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The 350Legend uses a .355 diameter bullet, the 360Buckhammer uses a .358 bullet. Winchester 400Legend will use a 0.4005 diameter bullet.

My view is the new 360Buckhammer will only reinforce .358 bullets being available for 35Remington. I don't believe Marlin or Henry will abandon the 35REM lever actions. YMMV.

Jack
 
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"As of today, the only company manufacturing a 35 Remington rifle is Henry, and they offer just one. But they’re offering three lever guns and one single-shot rifle in 360 Buckhammer."

Henry can't manage to ship enough .357 or .30/30 rifles, let alone make four new variations in this new round. I wouldn't count on Henry to cause the "death" of anything except themselves and the .360 Buckhamster.

.35 Rem has long been on life support. Besides some oddball offerings over the years, how many other calibers have been sustained by a solitary model of rifle for decades and faired any better or existed at all? Technically now we have "had" a second rifle out there in the Henry, but has anyone laid hands upon it? Nearer to death it is now because a box of it costs as much, if not more than .45/70 -- if you can find it (this doesn't apply to handloaders). And I'm betting most people still enjoying their .35's are handloading for it instead of buying factory ammo.

Would love for Ruger to bring back a 336 in .35 Remington though. I'd definitely place an order.
 
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"As of today, the only company manufacturing a 35 Remington rifle is Henry, and they offer just one. ...

Technically now we have "had" a second rifle out there in the Henry, but has anyone laid hands upon it?
I bought one 2 weeks ago. It's a very nice rifle but I would rather have a JM 336. I bought 2 boxes of ammo too but the cost of the ammo is still bothering me.
 
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I’ve never not found ammo I’m looking for at anmoseek, but I also have a local ammo store in town that has everything you can think of. I regularly see 44-40, 30-40 Krag, 38-55, yada yada. .35 Remington isn’t going anywhere and ammo won’t be any harder to find than it already is, which isn’t difficult so long as you’re willing to buy it. I bought 2 boxes at a gun show this weekend for $100, those 2 boxes will last a very long time with or without sighting in a scope.
 
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Unless Ruger makes and sells a 35 Rem a whole lot cheaper then their 336 Classic I do not see where their production will make a bit of difference in the 35 Rem survival. Even at that without a good supply of ammo I would guess most sales will be to collectors. +

As far as "dead or dying" calibers go I already load the .219 Zipper, 22 Hornet, 25-20 and 32-20. My mil-surps are a 30-40 Krag and a 50-70.
 
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You whippersnappers missed the 'death of the .45-70', predicted in the outdoor/gun magazines of the 1950's and 60's. I read the articles, the only popular writer who stood with the old cartridge was Elmer. Marlin brought out the 1895 in 1972, it took off, and look at the .45-70 today.
You also missed the 'death of the .30-06', knocked off its throne by the .270 Win, the 7mm Rem Mag, and the .280 Rem.

I'm inclined to think the .35 Remington of 1906 will last for another 117 years and beyond. Never say never, you'll just wind up eating your words. That list in post #4 doesn't mean doodley-squat.
 
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I saw that too and felt the same way. Obvious mistakes like that definitely hurt any credibility the article might have had. I already don't trust much of what the gunrag writers put out---most are shills IMHO.