Actually they are easy to install aligned.All you need to do is count the number of turns on both sides untill tight.Unscrew one side(Both the same side)Install both on the same side.Put a one inch pipe(OD)in the lower half of the rings.Now unscrew half the amount of turns on the other side(On both bases.)Now tighten up the two screws on the other side.Make sure the pipe slides free.This takes about 5 minutes.If you need to adjust for windage when the scope is installed just make sure you adjust front and back the same amount of turns.OB:biggrin:

 

Where were you a couple of hours ago, OB! ((D)))

I'd have payed you, and I never payed for a scope mounting before

 

Is there supposed to be some advantage to this set up? Or just a different way to mount scope rings? I don't know if I have ever seen a set of milletts.

 

Well, if you followed my recommendation Ron, you never would see a set. Oh, they're not junk, of course - they're actually well-made, as well as any other but no more than that. It's the design I didn;t like. Way more trouble than need be. Give me a Burris Zee and I'm happy.

 

I've used dozens of sets of Millet blued steel two-piece base mounts and split rings and have NEVER had a problem with mounting these sets; nor have I ever had a problem with these base/ring combinations withstanding recoil, knocked out of alignment from bumps during hunting, or even experienced ring mars on scope tube finishes. I guess I just got lucky?

 

It's an aweful design. You should be able to remove a scope and reinstall it without losing your zero. That'll never happen with this style ring.

 

They were not designed for quick release,but if you only loosen one side,when you put them back on,they are darn close.

 

I agree with Stretch, I had one set, hated them, sold them, and will never buy again.

 

Besides the mounting issues mentioned above, i don't like the way they fit on a Weaver base. They don't seem to engage as well as other rings. It's like the bottom 'ears' of the mounts are too thick or shaped differently or something. Granted, they haven't come loose or anything (only mounted a set on a Ruger 10-22) but they just don't look as solid as other mounts.

 

Some times my skull is kinda thick!?, it took three sets of Millet Mangle Locks before I vowed to NEVER! use them again, the rimfire ones wont hold onto the dovetails, and I popped the head off of one of the allen screws!, the gun shop gave me a new one, said they had a whole bag of them, said Millet said they'd send some when they called the first time about that problem, they got a bag of a hundred!
I'll stick with WEAVER rings.

 

for my own education, I did a google to see what they looked like and for what purpose they were designed for. all I could find out was they are made like with the adjustment screws on each side so they can be precision adjusted for windage. But I still don't understand why you would need to do that at the scope base, wouldn't you just use the windage adjustment knob on the scope? :hmmmm:

Old Welder, just answered about this on another post. Apparently this guys base or ? set up might be so far off he is out of adjustment with scope.

"The scope mount is off or your rings.
To check is the rings and mount are in center I use a piece of 1" cold roll round and mount it in the rings.
If the bar is not in center with the barrel you know the rings or mount are off.
You can try a different set of rings , and see if that helps ..
If the mount is off you can use a claw type ring and center the scope before you try to adjust the scope.
They call them angle lock rings .can be used for windage adjustment.
here is a link..."

1 Angle-Loc Windage Adjustable Weaver-Style Rings Low

Thank you all for continuing to add to my education.

 

That's right, sometimes the things are just so far catywampus that there's not enough windage in the scope. That can happen with elevation too. One scope I had to shim for elevation, but never one for windage. Anyway, I think there are better ring designs for handling the windage, if that turns out to be an issue on a particular firearm.

 

I have the angled set on my 300 weatherby because of the long action and they have held zero for years,but on another note I recommended them to a friend and after he mounted them we were sittig here and we heard a pop and the top part of ring broke.He returned them and they said they had been having problems with them.I also had a set on my 44 magnum pistol with no problems so maybe he got a bad set.

 

I'm not to fond of them either.

 

Totally disagree. I use Millet Angle locks on everything. NEVER had an issue. My 454 Casull has broken a number of scopes and other brand rings, but not the Millett Angle Locks.

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Having windage adjustment both FRONT and REAR is of huge importance for long range shooting. That scope must be PERFECTLY aligned over the bore of the rifle, otherwise when you "dial up or down" your bullet will be to the right or left of the target. With simple rear only windage adjustment, the bullet is only accurate with regards to windage in one particular point in space.

I've also dealt with MANY rifles (Remingtons mostly) that have the scope mount holes off center. Rather than move the reticle in the scope off center I'd rather move the scope. This keeps the reticle in the "sweet spot" in the scopes optics.

Sorry you had issues..............

 

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Having windage adjustment both FRONT and REAR is of huge importance for long range shooting. That scope must be PERFECTLY aligned over the bore of the rifle, otherwise when you "dial up or down" your bullet will be to the right or left of the target. With simple rear only windage adjustment, the bullet is only accurate with regards to windage in one particular point in space.

I've also dealt with MANY rifles (Remingtons mostly) that have the scope mount holes off center. Rather than move the reticle in the scope off center I'd rather move the scope. This keeps the reticle in the "sweet spot" in the scopes optics.

Sorry you had issues..............

I completely agree with you about scope alignment. Better the rings and base than the reticle adjustment - that's for finer adjustment. But, my first posts should have clarified: I did NOT have quality issues. What I had were design issues. Quality-wise, the Millets were fine. As I said, as good as others, but no better. The windage adjustments are design elements, and I just did not need the hassle of them for a 30-30 mounting.

I suppose if I really needed that much adjustment out of the rings on a particular rifle, I could call Millet and say "Do you have any without the interior grooved ribs?"

No. The rings are fine. They're just not for me.

As far as a ring half snapping, I'm wondering if maybe they were not properly aligned during the mounting, and when tightened, the scope tube was putting undue strain on them. Then....after a few rounds.......

 

I have used millet rings on a few rifles with no problems. I have a Sako .338 Win Mag, I bought at a sporting goods store and they did not have the Sako rings for it. I told the sales man I wanted to shoot the rifle as I had a hunting trip coming up. He sold me the Millets and said they were a good solid set of rings. I took them and put the scope on, bore sighted it in the cabin and have never looked back. That rifle is very accurate.

 

Actually it snapped sitting on sand bags on my kitchen table,no shots fired.I am not sure about the alignment because Mink put them on,I only leveled the gun and then scope with a line level.

 

My limited experience with millet rings (once ) was more than enough to sour me. They were ill fitting on the weaver bases, the screws self destructed and I ended up returning them and buying a set of Redfield mounts. Millet's quality is just not there!

 

You should scrap that Millet set-up and install a set of Weaver see thru rings, the kind you mount directly to the receiver, no base needed !

 

Landngroove, now.....I know you have to be yanking my chain! ((D)))

Actually, the rings are good quality and not "scrappable", I just don;t want to ever have to fuss with a set again. As I said, there're better ways to fix windage. Now if things were so bad out of whack that I needed that much adjustment, I'd get another set, but I wouldn;t be happy about it.

No, if I want see-through, I'll leave the scope off the rifle and just see-through the sights.

 

Couldn't resist that about the see thru rings! I'm sure you will be O.K. with your set up.

 

I have one pair of Millets....no problem mounting or adjusting...but knew that they would be nothing like the consistant Weavers the you can take the scope on and off and the poi barely change,...I'll replace them if the time comes that they need come off for any reason

 

what you call fuss i call finesse...i love and highly recomend millet angle-loc rings, theres no mount i cant shim and strafe with the millets!!! "kill it with millet", ill give you my address so i can properly dispose of those ill designed clunkers stretch. i use them even whene i dont have a problem with windage or elevation and i never have any problems, the problems are on the other end of things.