Marlin Safety 1893 25-20 Win Takedown

Czy_Horse · Mar 21, 2018

I've picked up an Marlin Safety 1893 25-20 Win Takedown made in 1900, looking around for information on this rifle I came across this video.

The rifle in the video is a 30-30 made in 1901 and at 2:03 in the video it shows 'Special Smokeless Steel' on the barrel. My 1900 25-20 has no such statement on the barrel.
The previous owner was using smokeless.

The previous owner had made up a bunch of rounds (June 2008 ), there is around a 100 rounds with a recipe of 8 grains of 2400 under an 86 grain Rem SP bullet CCI SR400 in NEW brass.
From the 1967 Lyman #44: It lists 7-9 grains of 2400 for an 86 grain jacket bullet.

Thanks to those that post copies of old reloading info!

The previous owner had made up another bunch of rounds (July 2010), there is around 50 rounds with a recipe of 7 grains of 2400 under an 86 grain Lead Cast, CCI SR400 in NEW brass.
From the 1951 'Ideal Handbook' #34: It lists 8 grains of 2400 under a 85 grain Lead Cast. Is a .25-20 Repeater the same as a .25-20 Win?

Thanks to those that post copies of old reloading info!

I'm going to 'pull' a few bullets and check powder charge weights. The 2017 & 2018 Hodgdon Annuals both have load listings for this caliber

but not for 2400 powder.

Does anyone have an 'Exploded' parts view for one of these rifles or is it the same as a 1894/1895?
Is the disassembly for cleaning receiver the same as an 1894/1895?

Parts for these old guns, anyone know of a source for parts? I would like to get some screws- have a couple of buggered screws, a spare ejector, the hammer spring is way,way stronger than any of my other Marlins-increases the effort required to cycle and I would like to find a rear leaf sight & ladder.

When I google "Marlin Safety" mostly all that comes up is the rants about cross bolt safeties :wink:. Anyone have or know where I'd find more info on the care and feeding of theses rifles.

Thanks

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AMM · Mar 21, 2018

If your Marlin is 25 20 you have an 1894 not 1893. The 25 20 is a fun cartridge to shoot. Back in the day a 25 20 was used to take one of the largest bucks in NY.
You might want to think about casting your own bullets.

Czy_Horse · Mar 21, 2018

Looked at the video again and took the rear peep off and it says 1894 on the tang, thanks!

The 1893 in this pic had me thinking it was a 1893<br>

Thanks again!

25/20Marlin · Mar 21, 2018

The 25-20 repeater is the same as the 25-20 Win. I think they were trying to make the point that this round is different than the 25-20 Single Shot which uses a longer narrower brass case.

You might try Wisners for some of the parts that you seek:

Marlin Lever-Action CF | Wisner's Inc

cj57 · Mar 21, 2018

A small amount of model 1894s ordered with SSS smokeless barrels

Owen49 · Mar 21, 2018

You've a plethora of small game in Ontario and should find plenty of opportunity for some practical application of your new-found jewel. I'd probably use FFFg for the propellant. Here's a little info you might find interesting. .25-20 Western Shooting Supplies (South Wales) Cowboy action shooting lever - 25-20 Load Data The .25-20: From Black Powder to Blackhorn 209 « Western Powders

Steve_In · Mar 21, 2018

My 1894, 1895 DOM, is marked 25-20 M. It doesn't matter any more when it got relined it was chambered with a standard 25-20 WCF reamer.
Your hammer spring is probably a flat spring, not coil like the new ones. I am not sure if all the old ones are that way or it was changed when Marlin brought them back out.
I have thought about seeing if any of my parts interchange with my 2006 44 mag. I just never have them apart at the same time.
eBay usually has parts for older Marlins.

marlinman93 · Mar 21, 2018

There is no real difference between the .25-20M (Marlin) and the .25-20 WCF. Just another case of Winchester stealing a cartridge that Marlin introduced. The .25-20M came out in the Model 1889, and later in 1895 Winchester offered it in their Model 1892. Both cartridges will interchange between the two rifles.
There's no problem shooting smokeless ammo in an 1894 Marlin, regardless of the type of barrel it has. It's a very strong barrel and actions never changed regardless of which barrel was on them.
Curious why today you thought your 1894 was an 1893, when previously you posted about it being an 1894?

Czy_Horse · Mar 21, 2018

marlinman93 said:
Curious why today you thought your 1894 was an 1893, when previously you posted about it being an 1894?

Thanks,
I thought it was an 1894 then looking at the stamping on the barrel and seen the 1893 on the barrel and the take down looks exactly the same as the one in the video of the 1893.
Then AMM said it was a 1984 :banghead: went and re-watched video and seen the 1893 on the tang.
Got the screw drivers out and removed peep site to find Model 1894.

Marlin Safety 1893 25-20 Win Takedown

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