First I'm seeing of it...looks really cool. I always preferred the classic wood style but the tacticool guys are gonna get a kick out of this, I know a guy that would love this

 

I’ll pass on that. Blued steel and walnut for me.

 

me too! the last thing we need is for lever guns to be BLACK GUNS.

 

They had better just get good at making standard lever guns first. If they don't their guns will be ugly as well as non-functioning.

 

Honestly a 45-70 or 45 colt would makes more sense with a threaded barrel even a 44 mag or 357 mag shooting the specials makes more sense. If you are going to suppress a 30-30 with subsonics you just turned it into a 300 blackout.

 

I personally do not care for it. Here is another video and they are discussing QC.

 

I am an old school blue steel and walnut guy but as a functional lever I think it could have it purposes. I like the idea of a peep sight and rail but a can on a 30-30 is just "tacticool".

 

sure a great way to wreck a good 150 year track record of a deer rifle.....Dam those Henry's are nice looking rifles

 

This last year was my 43 year deer hunting,only one time in all those years did a brother in law bring an AR-15 to deer camp,always is a good shot every other year,that year he shot at least 8 times,never found a deer until after deer season,found 3 through out the woods dead,not my idea of a good time,not my idea of a good,or even a needed weapon for hunting,its only design was to shoot lots of bullets at everything and kill people.I have never felt threatened in any way by a deer,squirrel,rabbit,or grouse,never had a need to carry an assault or black rifle.We have a new camp rule since that season,no assault weapons in camp by anyone,nothing my father or grandfather would not have called a deer rifle.I do like wood and blued steel,were not shooting the enemy or aliens in my camp,at least not yet just my opinion

 

This last year was my 43 year deer hunting,only one time in all those years did a brother in law bring an AR-15 to deer camp,always is a good shot every other year,that year he shot at least 8 times,never found a deer until after deer season,found 3 through out the woods dead,not my idea of a good time,not my idea of a good,or even a needed weapon for hunting,its only design was to shoot lots of bullets at everything and kill people.I have never felt threatened in any way by a deer,squirrel,rabbit,or grouse,never had a need to carry an assault or black rifle.We have a new camp rule since that season,no assault weapons in camp by anyone,nothing my father or grandfather would not have called a deer rifle.I do like wood and blued steel,were not shooting the enemy or aliens in my camp,at least not yet just my opinion

I recall Jimmy Carter was threatened by a mad Rabbit!...............he could have needed a gun like that!..........LOL!!

Tom

 

Just a gimmick, they know damn well the Lever guy diehards know they produce something that works every now and then, maybe we can sucker in the unknowing by going tactical.....Give me a break Remington/Marlin whoever you are. Just make us a RELIABLE affordable working mans gun. Quit trying to make the 336 something it's not!

 

Just for grins I went on Marlin's web sight. They have them listed at just under a grand. I did a dealer search and the Only dealer listed was "Dicks Sporting Goods". That is hilarious.

 

:dancing2:

 

I'll take wood and blue over "Midnight", "Phantom","Black" (no, I'm not racist), "Dark" or whatever else they want to call plastic or painted guns. It just has zero appeal to me. I'd also like to see Marlin actually put out a decent product before they add a "new millennial designed and targeted" fad to the lineup. It's time for some old-school classic designs that can be produced and actually work before they try this marketing garbage and call it "new" to the lineup.

Sorry Marlin...I'm not buying any non-JM Marlin/Remington until you get your act together and PROVE to me you'll stand behind your product, and produce a quality product that goes out your door in EVERY box....not just 1 out of every 10.

Thank you, Henry. Arms...you've met the mark.

End of Rant!!!

redhawk

 

It is a hardwood stock, not sure what kind of wood. I might have to take a look at it , as I like Dark and mysterious things. Although the $950.00 MSRP will probably keep me away until they come down and make it in either a .357, .44mag, or a .444 marlin.
Bill

 

There are times, and this is one of them...when I have considered changing my
screen name to "Nobody"...
That way when I "like" something, it would read, "Nobody likes this".

 

I lean towards 30-30 .. I have dabbled in just about every levergun tube fed round , except the 338 Marlin ... But a grand is a bit steep for me ...

 

The Marlin 336 Dark isnot my cup of tea. I prefer my lever guns more traditional. I do have a Marlin 1895 GSBL with the green stock. This is the stainless version with a black finish. I wanted an all weather gun, but am in the process of putting well sealed traditional walnut stocks on it. The 336 Dark appears to just be matte black carbon steel. If it was blackened stainless I think it would be a winner for a non-shiny all weather gun.

 

Lots of animosity towards AR15s and the .223 Rem. Those complaining are to me just as bad as those who are too inept to use them properly. The problem is not with using a 223 for deer, it's using FMJ or varmint bullets for deer. Both wound deer, with varmint bullets often making craters that cause a needless, lingering, suffering death. Nosler makes a 60gr Partician bullet specifically for this purpose, and for those who don't reload, Federal offers loaded ammo. Terminal performance (ie meat, heart, lung and bone) damage is on a par with some 150gr 30-06 loads, though at closer ranges. And speaking of bullet failures, I had a 100gr 25-06 Rem Core-Lokt fail on a doe at 364 yards (my buddy measured it with a laser). The bullet entered behind the left shoulder and exited the right haunch. It never expanded. Might as well have used a long 1/4" drill rod. The bullet even went through the liver and never damaged it. Classic bullet failure. Yet no one blames my Browning 1885 Single Shot nor the 25-06 cartridge for this failure.

As for the AR15, it's simply a gun. One that is very user friendly for customization for ergonomics, instead of a one-size-fits-none stock as most 'sporting' rifles have. The AR15 is also available in other cartridges, some more suitable for deer hunting. And its big brother, the AR10, comes in popular deer cartridges like the .243 Win and .308 Win.

Having said that, for big game I prefer lever actions and single shots, from 30-30 to 30-06 to 45-70.

For coyote hunting, my main coyote rifle is an AR15, but for many years I used Browning 1885 Single Shot High Walls in 223, 22-250 and 25-06. Restoring a Win 1895 in 25-35 for close to medium range coyotes.

Everyone likes their own cup of tea, but there's no need to run down what the other guy is drinking, and no need to condemn cartridges or guns because one boob used the wrong bullet and can't place his shots. Because you'd have to condemn nearly every sporting rifle and cartridge if you do that.

Back on topic, re: Marlin 336 Dark, not my cup of tea. I prefer my lever guns more traditional. I do have a Marlin 1895 GSBL with the green stock. This is the stainless version with a black finish. I wanted an all weather gun, but am in the process of putting well sealed traditional walnut stocks on it. The 336 Dark appears to just be matte black carbon steel. If it was blackened stainless I think it would be a winner for a non-shiny all weather gun.

Your post lost all credibility comparing a 60 grain 223 partition to a 150 grain 30-06 load. Its an apples to tiny grapes comparison. Not even fair to compare the two

 

I will pass. I like the wood and blued steel.

 

Okay, that's enough.
Stick to the topic, and focus your posts on
the topic (not each other) or this thread is done.

 

I find nothing about it appealing. Maybe the new generation of shooters likes it though. Time passes so quickly.

 

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It's obvious from your post that you have not personally seen the damage level; I have.

Also note I included a range limitation. That Partition bullet is incapable of matching the 30-06 for range. It is a close range bullet. To be specific, the damage you see a 30-06 do at longer distances is matched short range by the 60 gr Partition. But it cannot match the 30-06 at the same medium or long range.

This is something that many hunters don't think about. We hear tale of how their favorite big game cartridge/bullet did at 200 to 400 yards, then turn around and poo-poo a lesser round at close range. Yet they don't bother to stop and think that the short range cartridge is matching velocity or kinetic energy , but at a closer range.

I have. I'll pass

 

Keep it on track guys.....we're discussing the "Dark" 30-30, any more off topics ramblings will be deleted and action taken. CLEAR?

 

There are those out there to whom the Marlin Dark .30/30 will appeal; I sure ain't one of them. For example, I'm so traditional I chose a Classic Model 1895 over a Guide Gun model. Laminate stocks don't even appeal to me. But then, my wife claims I was BORN with "old fuddy-duddy" tastes. :embarassed:

 

I don't understand the choice of a 30-30 for this new dark Marlin. I would not pay $1000 for ANY 30-30. They're as common as dirt.




Mike T.

 

I guess they had to figure out how to use all those crappy stocks they made since the take over. Just coat em in bed liner paint! Call it the dark series!

 

I guess they had to figure out how to use all those crappy stocks they made since the take over. Just coat em in bed liner paint! Call it the dark series!

Lever Addict,

You may be closer to the truth than you realize...........

We did just that at Marlin in North Haven with stocks the didn't pass our inspections...............We fixed the blemishes with filler and then had them dipped in Camo..........That's what brought to market the 336 Camo rifles.
Once we got the wood supplier and the carving process back under control, we weren't getting the blems, and the 336 Camo rifles faded away....

I recall the root cause of the blems was the supplier. at that time.......

Tom

 

I saw something similar at the Range a few weeks ago............

The owner was a younger Gun Ho Tactical kind of guy...................

I asked him about his rifle, and he launched into a full blown dissertation of the Marlin 336 in 30-30 and schooled me for full 5-10 minutes on why the rifle is better for hunting Pigs with a tactical forearm..............

I gotta' tell you ............I was speechless!

So I opened my card carrier, and while showing him my old Marlin North Haven business card, I explained to him where I retired from, and what I did there, prior to retiring.............his response was dead silence.....

I thanked him for all the information he'd given me , and walked away to re-start the Range.............

It was a hallmark moment..............

Hey!....If he likes that tactical stuff, thats OK.................but there is NO functionality to any of it.

Tom

 

Ha ha ha ha ha! Too Funny. That kid picked out the wrong guy to lay a bunch of BS on at the Range. I suppose that's Remington's new customer base! :embarassed:

I bet he had an extra large serving of CROW for supper!



Mike T.

 

Well i hate to jump on the hate train but i just gotta -- these things are ugly. Im a relatively young guy at 33 but like many of you i prefer my classic firearms to be in the classic style. Ill take steel and wood, hell even laminate, over polymer or painted wood (which seems like the worst of both worlds) any day.

But having said that i hope this is a good marketing move for and long term strategy for Marlin. Perhaps in their eyes the plan is to make a product aesthetically appealing to the young tactical blackgunz guys, get them hooked into levers, and then sell them more traditional models once they begin to love the platform

In anycase, its good for levers, lets keep em alive!

 

Its better looking than the Mossberg Tacticool Lever--but that's about it................

 

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I was going to mention that Mossberg beat them to it with the 464 tactical. My guess is that it sells well enough that Marlin is trying to jump into the market. Next will be Henry. I do agree that a 357 makes more sense in a "tactical" configuration as it holds more ammo and is better suited for that type of use. 30-30 out of a short barrel has a bit more muzzle blast and the shorter magazine cuts back.

Unfortunately, black stocks are getting more common on sporter offerings in bolt actions. I have a black stocked 835 Mossberg pump shotgun and for duck hunting kind of liked it. Withstood very tough conditions and impervious to water. My bolt action Savage 22 has a plastic stock and also makes a tough little rifle. Guns used for opportunistic use in pickups trucks, on quads and tractors would also benefit with that type of stock. Pretty walnut makes for good safe queens but the plastic is more practical.

DEP