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Long barreled lever action: 357Mag or 45-70?

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#1 ·
I'm interested in purchasing a long barreled lever action rifle in either .357 Mag. or 45-70.

This rifle will be used for hunting varmints. Varmints = groundhogs, coyotes, fox, ****, feral cats, etc. Hunting distances will be well inside 150 yards. Pelts/meat are not a concern, as these varmints are being eliminated as pests and/or population control. 8)

My thoughts between the two calibers are:
The .357 Mag. will certainly do the job, but the 45-70 will be just as much fun with more power. I'm NOT recoil sensitive and I'm not concerned with ammo costs. I'll spend as much time as is needed at the range to find the rifle's capabilities (reloads, groupings, ranges, etc.) and after that the rest of my time will be spent hunting.

I already have reloading dies for .357 Mag., therefore my choice of a 45-70 over the .44 Mag. cartridge. If I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go big. :)

Your opinions and experiences are appreciated.
Thank you, Bowhunter57
 
#3 ·
Honestly, and I do not have one, but I would look for one of the 336 Cowboys in 30-30, You have the long 24" barrel and it's a bit flatter shooting at that range. I have several Marlins, 35 Rem, 32-20, 38-55, and 3 in 45-70. Got a couple of Winchester 1894-1994 commeratives in 30-30 with 26 in barrels.
 
#5 ·
45-70 would have a greater range of hunting options as far as size of animals harvested and at 150 yards it's well within its capabilities.

I would go with the model 1895CB. It's a great rifle and has that long barrel you indicated you are looking for.

Either choice would certainly do the job but I would go for the big one.

djh
 
#6 ·
I have a 24 inch 357 Cowboy and an 1895 Cowboy currently. I've used both calibers since the early '70s, as well as my preferred 44 magnums. They all work well and I like them.

BUT jkingrph is correct. I have a 336 Cowboy in 30/30 and it is my go to gun for the scenario you give. It shoots flat and has longer practical range than than the 357 or 45/70. I'm using moulds for 311041 with both plain base and gas check and really like it. A 20 inch 30/30 with good sights or a telescope would also be good for your specifications. (The factory sights aren't very precise; I'm installing a LYMAN receiver sight ASAP.)
 
#7 ·
1894CB in .357 and the 24" bbl.

I load it with 16gns of 2400, Fed cases, CCI primers, Hornady 158gn XTP HPs for my all around high power hunting load up to deer.

I have loaded the same rifle with 20gns of 2400 R-P cases, CCI primers, 110gn XTP HPs I'm pretty sure this would fill the criteria for 150yd vermin.
 
#8 ·
.45-70 is a bit much for varmints ...
 
#9 ·
I like the idea of the 30-30 as it would be flatter shooting than either the 357 or the 45-70 and would account for less misses on the varmints intinded. recoil is not a factor as you stated that it does not bother you but the recoil would fall between the 357/45-70, It would cost less to shoot than the 45-70 and the availability would be better than both.

Joe
 
#11 ·
Thank you, to everyone that has replied!!! :)

After some long and careful considerations, I'm going to go with the Marlin 1894CB in .357 Mag. 8)

As much as I'd like to own a 45-70, if I owned both, I think the .357 Mag. would become the "go to" rifle for my hunting needs. Already owning the dies, brass, etc. for the .357 Mag. will help get me started shooting sooner too. Now, all I need to do is sell this Desert Eagle and I'll be in business. ;)

Hopefully, Ohio's DNR will allow the current pistol cartridges in rifles for deer hunting and that will expand my hunting with this rifle. Indiana has already passed this idea into law, so perhaps Ohio will follow suit.

Again, thank you, for all the valuable information. It has made my decision making process much easier. ;D
Good hunting, Bowhunter57