It was storming yesterday, all day, and I have a severely lacerated right thumb that got infected and can't work in the shop and chance getting it dirty. Anyway I binge watched Yellow Stone all day and played with the dogs. I noticed some Marlins in that show.

 

I love that website

 

it really is a great website but there seem to be many more experts on military and modern guns than there are to identify older western guns. I just happen to be a fan of old western movies and only comment or identify weapons if If I am absolutely sure of what I'm talking about.

 

Funny thing about most Western films is that nine times out of ten an 1892 carbine and an 1873 SAA is about the extent of what you see. They even used 1892's in movies which were supposed to be taking place in the late 1860's and early 1870's.

 

Nothing stranger than to see John Wayne in the Union Army in 1865, and in the next scene, he's out and carrying an 1873 Colt and an 1892 Winchester. I guess they just weren't that interested in technical accuracy during that period of movie making. But to be honest, how many, other than gun enthusiasts and history buffs would actually notice? Either way, the movies are still entertaining, and in a lot of cases, a nice relief from the BS of today.

 

The wife and I watched 'The Magnificent Seven' on TV yesterday. Lots of lever guns and SAAs.

 

That rifle could have been a militia rifle with the stock cut down.

 

most of the westerns took place in the 1880s but most rifles are 1892 Winchesters, like the rifleman. I saw a 336 marlin 2 times in the big valley. every now and then you will see what appears to be a model 1860 with a loading gate on the receiver. the only problem is a 1860 loaded from the front of the tube, they didn't have a loading gate! they would take the forearm off a 1866 yellow boy and try to make it look like an 1860,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Anybody notice in Joe Kidd that the rifle Robert Duvall used was a Savage M99? The gun was authentic for the time period but with a Weatherby style stock and variable power Leupold scope? I forget which movie it was in but the bad girl had a Marlin 336 and the time frame was something like the mid 1890s, give or take.
Paul B.

 

in joe kid the savage Duvall had was a 1899 with a high comb stock. it would have been a deluxe model like a K, I think it was engraved, maybe,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Take a close look at that stock. The butt stock has distinctive Weatherby styling and the scope is definitely a Leupold..
Paul B.

 

The Buster Keaton movie THE GENERAL is about the railroad and the War Between The States. When it comes time for a bunch of soldiers to shoot guess what, they are shooting Trapdoor Springfields and flipping open the breech to reload.

 

The Mummy ...

 

I always like the Chamelot-Delavigne Model 1873 pistols he had in the shoulder rig,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Here's one of the most horrendous firearms anachronisms ever seen in a Western film...at least that I've seen. Move the slider to 1:05:00 and watch for a few minutes. Looks to be a Spanish made copy of the Mg42 LOL

 

The prop houses in the 50's and 60's were hard pressed to come up with genuine period guns, most of them didn't survive much past the Civil War. So there was a lot of fudging going on, there weren't many Henrys around so they would take the forends off 1982's and such to make them look a little more correct, and hoped people wouldn't notice. By the 1950's there were few if any Civil War survivors around, the studios probably figured no one would notice. :bandit:

 

Hollywood never gets it right when it comes to weapons. No recoil on large rifles or pistols. Guns that seem to hold more rounds that, I know can't. Every shot fired has a ricochet. Guy running in a hail of machine gun bullets, that hit all around him, yet not one finds its mark. But hey its all good. It's entertainment.

 

i was watching "the good, the bad, and the ugly" and at the end when they are in the big circle getting ready to shoot it out the camera keeps panning around each shooter Van Clef has a cap and ball revolver and his holster belt is loaded with brass cartridges and he never has a rifle in the movie.

 

What about the modern day cop shows when they have a shootout in an old empty building using at least two magazines in their handgun and after it's over they go outside and talk in a normal voice.

 

If Hollywood put their money where their mouth is they should not be using any guns in any of their movies. Let's see how many tickets they would sell after that ??? And if they really wanted to stop being 2-faced morons they should all move to a Commie country.

 

I just saw a D western from 2019. Crummy movie, hero was using a Henry rifle. Not as in Alexander Henry but a New Jersey Henry. Brass with tube load.

 

Steve McQueen carried that Mare's leg, but had 45-70 cartridges in his belt. Even could get 6 or 7 shots off without a reload.

 

"Ride the High Country" is one of my favorite westerns and it has several interesting weapons in it. Warren Oates carries a Remington Model 8, which jams on him in the final showdown. Oates discards it in disgust. LQ Jones has a Winchester 1895 carbine. John Anderson's long arm is a lever action rifle with a half magazine (not a "button" magazine). I assume it is a Winchester, but I might be wrong. I am too lazy at the moment to dig out the dvd to watch carefully.

 

There was an excellent movie with Gregory Peck "The Stalking Moon" They tried in that one but took a 94 Winchester and painted the receiver a brass color and removed the fore stock. Seen a lot of modern brass framed Henry Bigboy's in TV shows. Hell on Wheels was showing cavalry carrying them. Cavalry never carried lever actions. Also the main man was carrying a "Griswald" which was a cheap brass framed 1860 44. The Griswald's and Gunnison's were knock off of the 1851 36. Most often now when they try to show a mixture of genuine weapons they get mixed up in time frames.

DEP

 

My favorite: Valdez is Coming----Sharps Rifle !

 

My personal goal is when I watch any western and see a 'Henry' being used I start to look closely to determine if it is an 1873 Winchester with the forestock removed.

This was pretty common back in the day when 1873s were cheap and easy for the production companies to get a hold of.

I was at a gun show a couple years ago and a seller had a couple that were stamped with the name of a production company.

 

I just saw a D western from 2019. Crummy movie, hero was using a Henry rifle

Was this 'The legend of 5 mile cave' perhaps?