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Giving credit where credit is due. A Montana Bullet Works review.

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I just want to relay a very positive buying experience I have had with Montana Bullet works. As some of you know I recently aquired a Marlin guide gun and have been scrambling to get loads worked up before I go hunting. It has been a bit challenging getting the bullets I want in time. I ended up ordering some in stock 420 gr bullets from a well known maker through an online retailer. While they are basically fine, the attention to detail concerning the packaging was severely lacking. The bullets are just packed loose in a box too big to constrain them in any way. The result was dents, missing gas checks and all having missing lube from the grooves. Enough said.
Enter Montana Bullet Works. Placed an order a week an a half ago not sure I would get them in time. Well the mailman delivered them this AM. First thing I noticed was the well packed outer box with it's ample packing material and a info card with a hand written note from the owners. The contents of the inner boxes were clearly labled with the content info. When I opened the well sealed box, I was really blown away. Three layers of padding over the bullets that all have their own spot in the gridded foam holder. Pulling several out, the bullets are beautiful! Not a dent with all the lube intact. These bullets were no more $ and actually less than some of the known manufacturers. The also custom size in a wide range unlike many others. The whole experience was quite impressive in these days of bottom line profit driven company attitudes with poor product and even worse CS. My hat is off to Bruce an Victoria, Bravo Montana bullet works! Check them out as they offer a wide variety of projectiles.
 
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I like the personal touch with the note, as it should be. The manner of packaging should always be done as you'd expect and appreciate receiving any product. Well done.

Jack
 
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Soon I'll be getting back to finding something for my 1895 "Cowboy". Got some 325 .459" cast from another caster to test out. Only thing I don't like with them is if I find a promising "load", it'll take 4-6 months to get more bullets from them. I'll check them out.
 
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Update to the above ---- The velocity was comfortably where I wanted it so I loaded up 40 cartridges using the load above. I wasn't looking for super accuracy with the load, just close enough for some practice and maybe some brush hunting. I expected all would be well. I set about zeroing the scope, beginning with 25 yards shots. To my dismay the bullets were key-holing terribly, some almost 90 degrees sideways.



Let me emphasize that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the bullets.
They are very well made and very hard. The problem is with my load/rifle.

My rifle has a 1:14" twist and 2,036 fps appears to be too fast for these long bullets, even at BHN 22 and with a gas check. They are pushing right over the rifling. My bore is .4115", the bullets measure .412" and the gas check is .4125". Throughout the Lyman manual Lyman lists loads for gas checked cast bullets that are 0.0005" to 0.001" over bore size. Specifically, for .405 Winchester Lyman lists a .412" bore and lists loads for .413" sized 300gr bullets in a 1:14" twist barrel. I do not think another .001" in sizing will make a difference, at least not as fast as I am shooting them. The culprit then, is the velocity I am shooting them at. It's too fast for that bullet in my barrel.

I'm sure I can work loads back down until I reach a point where the bullets stay with the rifling and stabilize. My guess is that will be at least 200-300 fps slower than my current load, maybe more. But I don't have any interest in going there. I guess these bullets are just not for my rifle.

Again, there is nothing wrong with the bullets. They just don't do what I expected in MY rifle. A slower twist and/or lower velocity are needed.

Now, it's time to pull some cartridges apart -- fun, fun.
 
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A slower twist and/or lower velocity are needed.
If anything there is not enough velocity/pressure for the hardness of 22 BHN. Bullets are to small and to hard. Go with .002-.003 over groove diameter or a softer BHN to allow the bullet to bump up and catch the rifling . Increasing velocity may not be a option if your already at max pressure. Just my opinion...
 
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I see Montana bullets offered online but ever order them. Well I may got a box with my next online order to see if my rifle likes them. Thanks for sharing.
Tony
 
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