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Finally Found My Grail Winchester 1895 in .405 Winchester

7.9K views 71 replies 31 participants last post by  Texas Shooter  
#1 ·
This is my first Winchester however I've been looking for this one (or one like it) since 2008. It's one of a thousand built that year (that were not sold in match sets: another 250). I bought it off Gun Broker so you can imagine $$$$ but it was the right time for me.

I've also never shot or owned a .405 Winchester but again, always wanted one. Boy was I in for a surprise when I started looking for brass and bullets. So far after a couple weeks I've got my hands on 140 pieces of new brass and have another 100 on order with Bertram brass. BTW, IF ANYBODY HAS SOME BRASS THEY WANT TO OFFLOAD, GET A HOLD OF ME!

I've found Hornady 300-grain Spire Point available, so I've bought 250 of those so far. With regard to powder, I have more than enough H4198, so I bought dies and shell holders and started loading today. Off to the range tomorrow, although this is an unfired specimen, it will not remain so. Also thinking of sending the bolt off to Andy at Skinner Sights for it to be drilled & tapped for their sights.

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#2 ·
Great find. She sure is a purdy gun, and I happy to read that you're actually going to use her instead of making her a safe queen collectible. I have the non-engraved 30-06 100 year edition carbine version. If memory serves me, the left side of the receiver should be drilled and tapped for a receiver mount rear sight. I put a Williams peep sight, but I'm saving up the allowance that my wife allows me from my pay check to purchase a more authentic Lyman replica peep sight from Providence Tool Company. You may want to check them out before you send off your bolt to be tapped for a skinner. Here's the link to the PTC site:

sites (peabodyrifle.com)
 
#44 ·
Great find. She sure is a purdy gun, and I happy to read that you're actually going to use her instead of making her a safe queen collectible. I have the non-engraved 30-06 100 year edition carbine version. If memory serves me, the left side of the receiver should be drilled and tapped for a receiver mount rear sight. I put a Williams peep sight, but I'm saving up the allowance that my wife allows me from my pay check to purchase a more authentic Lyman replica peep sight from Providence Tool Company. You may want to check them out before you send off your bolt to be tapped for a skinner. Here's the link to the PTC site:

sites (peabodyrifle.com)
Man do not drill that beautiful thing the gentelman above mentions that there holes already drilled and taped if you are looking to scope it a good machine shop or gun shop should make a mount for you. I am in the process of designing a rear base for a Winchester 30-30 bolt action good shooting and do not ruin such a beautiful piece. I have never physically handled one so this option might not work
 
#7 ·
This is my first Winchester however I've been looking for this one (or one like it) since 2008. It's one of a thousand built that year (that were not sold in match sets: another 250). I bought it off Gun Broker so you can imagine $$$$ but it was the right time for me.

I've also never shot or owned a .405 Winchester but again, always wanted one. Boy was I in for a surprise when I started looking for brass and bullets. So far after a couple weeks I've got my hands on 140 pieces of new brass and have another 100 on order with Bertram brass. BTW, IF ANYBODY HAS SOME BRASS THEY WANT TO OFFLOAD, GET A HOLD OF ME!

I've found Hornady 300-grain Spire Point available, so I've bought 250 of those so far. With regard to powder, I have more than enough H4198, so I bought dies and shell holders and started loading today. Off to the range tomorrow, although this is an unfired specimen, it will not remain so. Also thinking of sending the bolt off to Andy at Skinner Sights for it to be drilled & tapped for their sights.

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Congratulations! She is a beauty, even if it is a Winchester 🤣 Seriously though, congrats on finding something like that you wanted, and thanks for sharing the pics of her (y) I have a rifle like that, that is beautiful to hunt with lol. I bought a Remington 700 in 300RUM when they came out. But, I wanted a stainless barrel, and when they first came out, you couldnt get a wood stock with a stainless barrel, only the carbon fiber stock. So, I also ordered a monte carlo stock from Remington, when my gun guy ordered the gun for me. He ordered the right stock, but they didnt send the one he ordered. They sent this beautiful gray stock like I had never seen. I shot a half a box of ammo getting it on paper and close at 100yds, then put it up. Its been fired once since then lol. That was 1997
 
#9 ·
Very nice. I decided about 20 years ago that if I wanted something, and that all the bills were paid and some $$ in the bank I would buy it. That was a week after my brother passed after saying to me, “Don’t die without doing something you want to do, or getting what you want if you can afford it!” He was 55 when he went to the other side!
I’m like you, I shoot what I buy. Enjoy that, let us know how it runs for you! Psssst, it’s your rifle but a receiver or tang sight on that please 🙏…

Regards,
 
#33 ·
Agree, I went into the gun shop to order a CZ 457 Lux in .22mag, and saw a revolver I had never before seen, a S&W model 18, Looks like a combat magnum but .22LR. Made a deal and got it. Still ordered the CZ. Got to looking , damn the internet and discovered another S&W, a model 48, Looks like a K 22 or K 38, but .22 Mag so checked the bank account and ordered one of those.
 
#11 ·
Beautiful rifle! May you have many years and memories enjoying it! Thats what life is all about!
 
#12 · (Edited)
Congrats on your new to you Br. Win. 1895 405Win.
I bought the field model Br. Win. 1895 30-06 NIB when the Teddy Roosevelt Commemorative came out. I have been firing it as it is and it’s an accurate rifle.
I just purchased a Marble tang peep sight, no need for drill and tap. At the time when Browning produced the Teddy Roosevelt Commemorative Big Medicine 405 Win. I don’t think those rifles were drill and tapped. It would be a shame to cover up the beautiful engraving with a Lyman replica peep sight.
I had plan to install the Marble tang peep sight today hopefully. If I do I’ll post a picture.
Edited 2/4/24.
Sorry for the miss info. the marble peep sight has two screws it uses the original screw hole that holds the butt stock, and a hole needs to be drilled and tapped for the second screw.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Congrats on your new to you Br. Win. 1895 405Win.
I bought the field model Br. Win. 1895 30-06 NIB when the Teddy Roosevelt Commemorative came out. I have been firing it as it is and it’s an accurate rifle.
I just purchased a Marble tang peep sight, no need for drill and tap. At the time when Browning produced the Teddy Roosevelt Commemorative Big Medicine 405 Win. I don’t think those rifles were drill and tapped. It would be a shame to cover up the beautiful engraving with a Lyman replica peep sight.
I had plan to install the Marble tang peep sight today hopefully. If I do I’ll post a picture.
Setting up my Br. Win. 1895 to install the Marble peep sight I just realized that the tang only has one screw that holds the butt stock, the sight two screws. I would need to have a second one drill and tapped to install this sight. I did buy a Marble bullseye sight a while back and may install it instead and call it a day. My bad.
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I just read the Q&A listed, it has to be drill and tapped. It was a birthday offer midway offers to their registered customers. Not such a birthday gift after all.
 
#69 ·
Ii have a book by Kenneth Anderson who used a 95 in 405 to hunt tigers in India. He was kind of like Jim Corbett but later. He lived to write about the hunts. 405 was used on tiger and bear. He also encountered rogue elephants but used a double rifle for them.

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Corrected an error Anderson not Robinson
Yep, I have read Kenneth Anderson's books several times. I just can't get enough when it comes to stories on hunting tigers. I have the full collection of Corbett's works too.

Beautiful rifle 1895 Gunner. Congratulations! I have a Winchester 1895 in 30 US (30-40 Krag) made in 1900. Not a bit of blue left on it but it has a tight action, great bore and shoots great. I also have a Browning 1895 in 35 Whelen.

I know you will enjoy your new acquisition. The 405 Winchester is a good round that performs very similar to the later 444 Marlin - my favorite Marlin.

Here's my 124 year old Winchester 1895. Note the full buckhorn rear sight. It's the only one I've ever seen. It's a lot like shooting with a ghost ring rear sight thereby allowing quick but accurate shots.

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#21 · (Edited)
Putting a Skinner peep sight on the bolt and not drill and tap the receiver can be reversible if you order an extra bolt to fit your 1895, might be a good idea to either use to have it drill and tap for the Skinner peep sight and save the original bolt.
That's an idea I may take myself. But being I already have a Marble Bullseye rear sight which is as simple as knocking the original rear sight out the dovetail slot and tapping the Marble sight in, seems like an easy solution for ageing eyes.
 
#24 · (Edited)
Beautiful rifle! Bad timing with Hornady dropping the .405 brass they were making.
I use .405 brass to make my .40-63/70 Ballard, and .40-70SS cartridges, and fortunately got a heads up before it was all gone, so ordered 500 more cases back then to feed 6 rifles I use the .405 brass in.
Bertram brass still makes it. And Hornady is getting ready to make another run of loaded ammo. They however will no longer sell empty brass.
 
#26 ·
Your rifle is exceedingly beautiful and
the 405 Winchester is an excellent cartridge.

As you already know, the 405 can be kinda tricky load for with components being scarce but it sounds like you’ve got a good start what you have on hand.

I’ve been shooting this one (Winchester/Miroku Texas Commemorative in 405) for 7 or 8 years and it is supremely accurate with handloads and factory ammo.


I have found mine extremely easy to load for and get excellent accuracy with and I am 100% confident you will enjoy yours.
 
#55 ·
Your rifle is exceedingly beautiful and
the 405 Winchester is an excellent cartridge.

As you already know, the 405 can be kinda tricky load for with components being scarce but it sounds like you’ve got a good start what you have on hand.

I’ve been shooting this one (Winchester/Miroku Texas Commemorative in 405) for 7 or 8 years and it is supremely accurate with handloads and factory ammo.


I have found mine extremely easy to load for and get excellent accuracy with and I am 100% confident you will enjoy yours.
I bought a pair of these, consecutive serial numbers and sold one to my family dr/hunting partner! I have 3 boxes of the original hornady ammo, but have not "touched one off" yet ! two shoulder surgeries, including a rotator cuff and "resurfacing" of the joint on the same side, and not REALLY sure I want to test the surgeons skill a third time LOL
 
#28 ·
That is a very pretty Winchester! I'm sure you will like the 1895 Winchester. Never done anything with the 405 caliber, but I do have one in 30-06 (Texas Ranger 200th Anniversary), and a 1913 SRC in 30-40 Krag. Like you, I tend to shoot what I have. The 30-06 shoots very well out to 300 yards with the standard open sights. Still working to find the right load for the 30-40. That one has an original Lyman Model 21 aperture sight on it. You may want to consider one of those before having your bolt drilled.

Looking forward to a range report after you get some shooting in.