Actually pretty cool!

 

The answer to a question that didn't need to be asked.

 

Interesting idea. I like the pump AR that came out a few years ago.

 

🤮

RP

 

Interesting concept, but not my "cup of tea". But interesting nonetheless.
I would like the opportunity to handle and shoot one.

WYT-P
Skyhunter

 

Next up on the Dems ban list....lever action....

 

That's different, not a bad thing though. I wonder if uppers would be interchangeable, that could be versatile, like Contenders were, change the barrel have a different caliber.

 

For

Yes, it's marketed as multi-caliber. I assume that like their SCR, it will take any AR upper receiver, barrel (with blocked gas port, or purpose-built without one), handguard, bolt, magazine and mag-release, so you'll be able to convert to any small-block AR caliber (5.56, .300 BO, 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, .458 SOCOM, etc.) The bolt carrier and the lower receiver (rear of the magwell) will obviously be proprietary, as they are on the SCR.

 

Why?

Talked a felow out of using his muzzle break earlier by asking that question. There was no good answer.

 

The generations behind us are conditioned to think that a rifle needs to look like a welding machine, or something out of an apocalypse movie to be viable.
Wood and blue steel is archaic. If you can't hang a dozen different gadgets that you will probably never use off your rifle, your rifle has no value.
The rifle shown has several of the criteria the anti-gun idiots use to condemn a firearm and claim it has no sporting value. Threaded muzzle, and detachable mag are 2 that jump out.
Black plastic furniture doesn't help. Add to that the fact that the rifle may not shoot any better or more accurately than it's "no longer useful" ancestor and the question "why?" makes perfect sense.
And yet, the younger generations go ahead and create a rifle that will have the liberals screaming to the feds "MAKE IT GO AWAY!!"

 

The generations behind us are conditioned to think that a rifle needs to look like a welding machine, or something out of an apocalypse movie to be viable.
Wood and blue steel is archaic. If you can't hang a dozen different gadgets that you will probably never use off your rifle, your rifle has no value.
The rifle shown has several of the criteria the anti-gun idiots use to condemn a firearm and claim it has no sporting value. Threaded muzzle, and detachable mag are 2 that jump out.
Black plastic furniture doesn't help. Add to that the fact that the rifle may not shoot any better or more accurately than it's "no longer useful" ancestor and the question "why?" makes perfect sense.
And yet, the younger generations go ahead and create a rifle that will have the liberals screaming to the feds "MAKE IT GO AWAY!!"

I don’t doubt the last sentence of your post Mike, but I’m afraid that even a firearm with a lead pipe barrel and a salvaged pallet slat buttstock would elicit the same response from that particular group. The bottom line being,”we must all hang together, or we will surely hang seperately”

 

Looks like it has a lot of AR15 parts in it. AC

 

As mentioned in my second post, it most likely has a standard AR upper without the gas port/block/tube and a proprietary carrier (bolt, itself, could be standard) and a standard AR mag well/release.

Could you get it in 350 Legend?

Get it in? No. Buy a lower and build it in? I don't see why not.

The designer has looked at a lever rifle, then an AR and thought, hey, I have an idea.

The designer looked at his own MSR (Ares/FightLite SCR):

and a lever. The SCR came when he looked at an AR and Remington 870 (though, ultimately, they used parts like a Remington 1100.)

 

Different for sure. While I have no desire to own one, I can certainly appreciate the design and possibilities it offers. Tactical style lever guns, love em or hate em, have a large following and I bet this will do quite well.

 

I kinda like it. It's built on functionality. Seems like it would be a great platform for foul weather hunting conditions that you wouldn't want to take your nice wood&steel safe queen out in. I like working a lever better than bolt. Easier to work either hand than a bolt.
AND if it gets younger people interested in buying it because it's not a FUDD gun...
Win - win.

 

Could you get it in 350 Legend?

 

The appearance of the rifle doesn’t excite me much, but it does seem to be a capable alternative to msr platform, and swapping uppers would be useful in event of certain “scenarios”.

 

So what does this rifle offer others dont? It takes box magazines. So, much like most AR and bolt rifles then. It cycles by lever, kinda like our Marlins, Winchesters, Henrys, Ubertis etc. I dont see anything horribly wrong with this, but repeat the question, why? The designer has looked at a lever rifle, then an AR and thought, hey, I have an idea.

 

Or perhaps someone carelessly left a poor,”unfired” Henry x model in a secluded gun safe with a shady teenage Savage msr! “Oh, the shame”!

 

Well, I am a old fart...but I like it. Maybe because i is like me...kind of ugly but functional. Depending on price, I could see adding it to my small collection.

Padraig

 

Interesting idea. I have no interest in a 5.56 lever gun but could put a .458 SOCOM to use.

 

I look at this and think,.......... why? I mean we already have some beautiful lever guns, and black plastic guns out the wazoo, so what's the attraction?

I get wanting to shoot more ballistically efficient (pointed) bullets out of a levergun,....... so a magazine fed version sounds great. (Savage 99 & Browning BLR already did that, and others I'm sure) And they are beautiful rifles. Wood and blued steel.

This must be a "new generation" thing (X, or Y or Millennial whatever thing). Plastic gun parts are just plain ole ugly. Function? Yep, they do that, and I have a couple of those fugly guns that work well. (Beretta PX4 Storm, Shield 45, FNX 40 and so on) But truthfully I seldom drag them out to the range or show them off to friends.

I know, I'm an old fuddy duddy that hates "change". But I'm comfortable being me. I'll not be looking for one myself. Y'all can have all of them newfangled leverguns. I'm looking for a "Waffletop" 30-30 or an 1894 45 colt myself. Them rifles are "PURTY"! Yep, I know I'm right!

 

UGH!

AC

 

It would be a dull world if we all liked the same thing.

Padraig

 

All these new designs an looks.... ALL do one thing, an that’s continuing our enjoyment of firearms.

Iam all for it myself.

 

My reaction?..........HO HUMMM......Wanna shoot pointed bullets in a tubular magazine?..........Just install a Remington mdl 14-141 SPIRAL tubular type magazine on your rifle............Manufacturer's should have done that years ago..........BUT THEY REFUSE TO for some stupid reason..........As for me buying the above rifle. Nope.

 

This rifle appeals to me in the same way a Remington 7615 police carbine, or it’s 308/7.62x51 sibling does. I like rough duty rifles that don’t scratch and warp. I also really appreciate the durability and composite stocked lightness of my m1a (m-14) vs it’s wood stocked counterpart. When it’s truly “GO” time, that will be my choice. Hope it never happens.

 

I'm a no nonsense guy who takes the best, tool for the job1. Caliber,accuracy, power, knockdown, realistic, lever, pump, bolt, semi auto, you get it.

AC

 

I'm a no nonsense guy who takes the best, tool for the job1. Caliber,accuracy, power, knockdown, realistic, lever, pump, bolt, semi auto, you get it.

AC

Ah ha. Yes, of course. And in that common sense spirit, bein as we cant carry six guns around with us, on a hunt or to the range we select the one that will do most of what we ask of it well. Compromise. Seems to me this rifle offers little to nothing not already available.

Oh and in the Youtube clip, how much does that weigh fully loaded?

 

I think the concept is interesting. I believe if the price was right I would get a lower and put a Wilson Combat 300Hamr barrel on it. The end result would be a short, light and very functional rifle that would have the same ballistics as a 30-30 with a little more range from the pointy bullet. What is not to like (besides being ugly😁).