The patch is clearly designed to drive division in the community and our country. I know this because I have a sticker on my Jeep that is written in English and Arabic. The sticker spells out “Infidel“. You want to prove you’re all about inclusion, bring back the rebel flag.

 

I like it; America is a land for all and Dearborn has a lot of Arabic-speakers.

 

She needs to take that American flag off her uniform! Actually, the department needs to remove them…all of them, which I’m sure they’d loved to do!

 

Why, out of curiosity?

Should all police everywhere remove any trace of local culture from their heraldry?

 

That would put me off even more than the despicable "Blue Line" flag patches...

 

This is the United States of America; our national language is English. South Buffalo has a large Irish population, yet i don't see police cars and patches that say Garda Siochana. Jamestown NY has a very large Italian and Sicilian population but they don't have Carabinieri on patches or vehicles. Get over it.

Padraig

 

I would bet you quite a bit that bigoted comments like BubbaJon’s wouldn’t come at all if the cars did say “Carabinieri” or “Garda”.

Also, we don’t have a “national language”, or at least I don’t think we have legislation designating English as such. There may be a Trump EO, I’m unsure.

 

My city is 47% Portuguese, and many older residents (and some young) don't even speak English. Yet, no Portuguese on the police uniforms or cruisers. However, many cops speak Portuguese.

 

If we open this up to other than English, someone will always be left out. This is America, the great melting pot. English binds us together. We have to pick a common language and English is it, done, end of story. Too late to go back now! I have Inlaws nationalizing as we speak and they learned English. My ancestors learned English. Get over it!

 

And most everyone in Dearborn speaks English well. In fact, it’s per-capita significantly better-educated than most American communities, safe and relatively pleasant. But maybe their PD wanted to showcase that their relatively-unique Arab-American culture is also welcome there; and here we have posters demanding they be stripped of citizenship for “Sharia!!!”

 

You need to be careful calling people bigots. I find that to be a tropical ruse of the left when they can't make a logical argument. Oh by the way...My wife's father came from Sweden. Guess what...he and his family all learned English. Like it or not...a law or not...English is our language.

Padraig

 

And like it or not, this Arabic script is the equivalent of some rural Texas department putting a local landmark or saying on their patch, and is objectively far less controversial than “in God We Trust”, which I remember most of this board eagerly endorsing. Double standards much?

 

Weirdly, the patches still say “Dearborn Heights Police” in English. And again in Arabic. That’s objectively less biased than every single “In God We Trust” police cruiser or patch out there.

And I’m directly and precisely calling out BubbaJon for his “probably Sharia law” comment. If he has a single iota of evidence that the LEOs of Dearborn Heights or any other community are enforcing Sharia law instead of the laws of the United States and the State of Michigan, I expect it to be presented. Otherwise, it’s just another bigoted throwaway statement from a Boomer with some site tenure and a bigotry problem.

 

Well.....I am done with this. Since you want to call people names and hate Boomers...I will just say that I am tired of arguing with a moron

Padraig

 

Never did I say I hate anyone, I am simply pointing out that BubbaJon and many of the other posters are openly expressing anti-American views and sentiments by demeaning any sort of local cultural recognition that isn’t their own. The other commonality is that the posters mostly seem to be older (white) guys…seems y’all are totally OK when it’s “In God We Trust” or stereotypically American symbology, but put some Arabic script up and hold onto your hats!

Once again, I’m not trying to make this personal, but it’s pretty obvious that most of the posters here would disappoint Batman and Superman because you’re definitely not particularly inclusive of anyone of Arab culture from behind your anonymous screen names.

There could be an Allah-worshipping, Dearborn-living, America-loving poster with a love for steel and walnut Marlins and deer hunting and the Lions reading this right now, and how welcome would they feel? Particularly when a moderator on this board is insinuating that their culture naturally can’t be trusted to abide by the laws of the United States, or that expressing pride in their identity is somehow anti-American, or that the beliefs and actions of other people who claim to be of a common faith defines their actions.

You might as well assume all Irish and Hispanics and Italians are the same and fifth columns in waiting, I mean, Catholics, right?

Don’t be bigots please. It makes the gun community even less welcoming. Be better.

 

Please keep it civil and without personal attacks from this point forward or the thread will be closed.

 

Please keep it civil and without personal attacks from this point forward or the thread will be closed.
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Close It! Off the rails.

 

Trump-Supporting Muslim Mayor Halts English/Arabic Police Department Patch

 

Umm… Batman and robin aren’t real. they are cartoon characters just like Bambi.

Don’t want to insult anyone but then go on to insult everyone… why is it OK for the left to insult everyone but then claim everything is an insult to them? Again, assimilate into the country you chose to immigrate to. Nowhere does any country on earth assimilate to it’s immigrants. Yet anyways.

Vehemently criticize in a very derogatory manner stereotypical Americans as fat old god-fearing white men. In a typical left wing mistake, does anyone know citizens of Dearborn and Dearborn Heights don’t want to be a stereo typical American? Do United States of America was founded on Christian-Judeo values. Prove me wrong.

 

Who or why anyone would use an image of cartoon characters to explain there logic is beyond my imagination. However, it does provide some insight into the individuals mindset and disposition. Words of advice..

 

Batman and Robin! LOL....We have been arguing with a 12 year old.

So long. Getting out before I get a vacation for verbally abusing a child.

Padraig

 

The American flag in many countries is also associated with random violence, terror, mass killings and arbitrary destruction. Why don’t we ask some Vietnamese or Cambodian folks how Old Glory makes them feel, in its entirety?

Our national military patches weren’t what we displayed prominently when I was overseas, we had gigantic Arabic-language placards demanding we be given deference and telling people how not to get shot. It wasn’t good PR but I think it was necessary from an operational standpoint. I’m 100% sure the Iraqis had some very conflicted feelings about Uncle Sam and our presence there.

Once again though, this ain’t about the military, because the actual military when it’s winning is inclusive, respectful and culturally-sensitive to the greatest extent possible. When it’s not, that’s how we lose campaigns and ultimately wars.

Getting back to the original topic, I think it’s fine that this community puts some attention to their own local cultural mix with regards to their local institutions. Just like “In God We Trust” makes sense for small, devoutly Christian little Southern towns built around a church, putting some Arabic on a patch is fine.

I’m still waiting on that proof that they’re enforcing “Sharia law”, by the way.

Edit: seems like people don’t like pushback and ask for things to be closed when they get uncomfortable. Nothing like an echo chamber!

 

The American flag in many countries is also associated with random violence, terror, mass killings and arbitrary destruction. Why don’t we ask some Vietnamese or Cambodian folks how Old Glory makes them feel, in its entirety?

Our national military patches weren’t what we displayed prominently when I was overseas, we had gigantic Arabic-language placards demanding we be given deference and telling people how not to get shot. It wasn’t good PR but I think it was necessary from an operational standpoint. I’m 100% sure the Iraqis had some very conflicted feelings about Uncle Sam and our presence there.

Once again though, this ain’t about the military, because the actual military when it’s winning is inclusive, respectful and culturally-sensitive to the greatest extent possible. When it’s not, that’s how we lose campaigns and ultimately wars.

Getting back to the original topic, I think it’s fine that this community puts some attention to their own local cultural mix with regards to their local institutions. Just like “In God We Trust” makes sense for small, devoutly Christian little Southern towns built around a church, putting some Arabic on a patch is fine.

I’m still waiting on that proof that they’re enforcing “Sharia law”, by the way.

Edit: seems like people don’t like pushback and ask for things to be closed when they get uncomfortable. Nothing like an echo chamber!

Did you happen to read the article posted earlier concerning this event? Thread post #24

The mayor of Dearborn Heights, Michigan, said the Detroit suburb’s police department jumped the gun on posting a mockup of an optional patch in English and Arabic three days ago, explaining it should never have been presented as official.

The Dearborn Heights Police Department announced in a Facebook post earlier this week it was going to be offering its officers the optional patch that had “Dearborn Heights” and “Police” written in both languages — believed to be the first of its kind in the country.

But that post has now been removed, with Dearborn Heights Mayor Bill Bazzi — nominated by President Trump to a North African ambassadorship — saying not so fast on the proposed alteration to the local police uniform.

It was not “put forth for consensus for further review,” Detroit’s Fox affiliate quotes the mayor as saying.

“Should efforts like this be formally undertaken to make any changes to the Police uniform, it is our goal to include multiple PD stakeholders for a larger conversation, to ensure all are included in the discussion,” Bazzi said. “As we are one PD, each individual’s uniform represents the DHPD as a whole, and therefore merits the review and input of all.”

The police department wrote in its original statement on Facebook that the patch was designed by one of its officers, adding, “Our officers proudly serve all members of our community, and this new design is another way we continue to celebrate the rich cultures that make our city unique.”

However, it should never have been offered as “an official prototype,” Bazzi, who was born in Lebanon and is the city’s first Muslim mayor, said.

The patch generated thousands of comments on Facebook, many of them in opposition, including one local man who posted, “we’ve lost the city.”

Dearborn Heights’ Middle Eastern and North African population was 39% as of 2023. In neighboring Dearborn that number is roughly 55%.

President Donald Trump won both those cities in the 2024 election by eight and six-point margins over Vice President Kamala Harris. He actively sought out Arab and Muslim support while campaigning as a “peace candidate” in Michigan.

One of those who backed Trump was Mayor Bazzi, who the president earlier this year appointed as the United States ambassador to Tunisia, an Arab country with a population of some 12.3 million.

Bazzi just had his confirmation hearing in Washington Wednesday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which now is expected to go to full Senate confirmation.

Bazzi, 62, is a classic American success story. He came to the U.S. at 12 from Lebanon with no formal education and went on to serve 21 years in the U.S. Marines, later earning aeronautical engineering degrees and working in positions for Boeing and Ford Motor Company.

Despite the apparent mix-up over the patch, Bazzi told the local Fox affiliate he was proud of the police department’s efforts in the community.

 

Cool, but it doesn’t change the bigoted responses from quite a few people, including folks on this board. I’d also bet dollars to donuts the patch got pulled because the city’s leadership assessed the hassle of dealing with so many bigots and decided it’s just better to remain subdued.

America, y’all. Love the rose-tinted manufactured image or leave it!

 

Guys, going to shut down this thread now .......my discretion.