Buy a Galco and don't worry about it.

Shoot the rounds and replace them every few years, don't worry about it

I've never seen them corrode, only tarnish

The 94C hold plenty of rounds for defense

Even the best cuffs loosen and slide foward on straight stocks

 

I love the look and feel of leather, but for me the nylon shellholders made more sense. Plain brass rounds will tarnish if left in leather, so that's not your best option for a Home Defense gun. I caught a sale at Midway awhile back and got these for around $4 each, but they are NOT a perfect solution. Everything with more recoil than the 357 Magnum will make the cuff slide up the stock toward the wrist. I cut a slit in the lower edge, and let the sling stud poke through to hold it in place, but on all the other guns they still slide around. I thought about putting a couple of tacks or staples through the nylon to hold it in place, but never did, I don't want to mar the stock. Maybe putting the south end of the cuff under the buttplate would hold it. Might be worth a try.

 

An idea about the nylon cuffs:

I haven't tried this, but what about putting some of that no-slip shelf liner material under it? The kind that you out and a shelf or in a drawer, or under a rug to keep it from slipping?

The only ways around the corrosion are using nickle plated brass or maybe someone will make the loops out of canvas web material. I've seen some gun belts done this way, but I don't know about a but cuff. It should be doeable.

 

Just found a NIB that the store will trade for $100 difference with my NIB Rossi 92 44 Rem mag and I am to pick it up today. How accurate are they anyway? Also was told by the guy at the gun shop that the the little ported beauty is not legal to use in Cowboy Action shoots. Is that true? The shop has had this gun couple of years so a friend was telling me, because he looked at several times and almost bought the rifle but was scared off by the ported barrel. The out right cash sale price was $600 the shop guy told me, but said if my 92 is NIB he would trade for $100 difference and I left a $100 with him and will take him the 92 with the box this morning.

I gave $450 for the 92 back in April and as yet not fired it due to all the bad weather and being sick a lot.

 

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Isn't that a little spendy for an ammo holder?

 

As mentioned above, poking a hole in the cuff allows the stud and swivel to hold my nylons cuffs solidly in place.

 

Groo here
Now you know why the shells made in cop calibers were nickel plated.
We used leather loops on our belts.

 

I use the nylon loops on my 1895 45/70 and cut the hole in for the sling stud, works fine. Howumsoever, I'm saving my nickels for one of Levergun's leather butt covers with his incredible artistry on one side. He made a knife sheath for my dad's WWII Marble combat knife that was custom and just outstanding. Check out his work. As the man says.... Recommended!

Levergun's Leather Works: ( www.levergunleather.com )

 

I love the look and feel of leather, but for me the nylon shellholders made more sense. Plain brass rounds will tarnish if left in leather, so that's not your best option for a Home Defense gun. I caught a sale at Midway awhile back and got these for around $4 each, but they are NOT a perfect solution. Everything with more recoil than the 357 Magnum will make the cuff slide up the stock toward the wrist. I cut a slit in the lower edge, and let the sling stud poke through to hold it in place, but on all the other guns they still slide around. I thought about putting a couple of tacks or staples through the nylon to hold it in place, but never did, I don't want to mar the stock. Maybe putting the south end of the cuff under the buttplate would hold it. Might be worth a try.

Get some of that velcro tape PJ.

 

Here are a couple that I bought off a fella in Kentucky, pm me and I will give you his email

 

two or three wide rubber bands under the butt cuff will help keep it in place.

 

You do not have to put brass cased rounds in your leather holder. For defense purposes, why not used nickel plated brass hollowpoints? Many manufacturers use nickel plated brass in their premium rounds. No tarnish!

I have them in my 1894C .357/38 and I also have 24 rounds of Federal HydraShok .357 Mag in the belt loops of my Cowboy belt/holster rig for my New Vaquero.

 

I have been hunting since the early 50's, and I can't think of a single time when I needed more ammunition than was in the rifle. I don't like butt cuff ammunition holders for a variety of reasons, and don't use them.

 

I have been hunting since the early 50's, and I can't think of a single time when I needed more ammunition than was in the rifle.

Hunting has nothing to do with mine.

 

Heck PJ real easy to get butt cuffs to stay in place just grab yer Arrow stapler and have at it. ;D

 

Heck PJ real easy to get butt cuffs to stay in place just grab yer Arrow stapler and have at it. ;D

I can just picture it now. lol ;D

 

Chicken wire staples, lmao!

 

The Allen 9-round nylon buttcuffs are on sale at Midway again..............$3.49 each.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduc...uctnumber=230112&utm_source=hd_leupold_30mm_rings_img&utm_medium=homepage062209

 

I really like Levergun's stuff. I have a butt cuff and sling coming for my 1894. They will look something like this (without the third piece):

http://www.levergunleather.com/

Lever can go as elaborate as you want but for my 1894, that is what I want. Does it fit for defense? I actually got the idea from a picture of Gabriel Suarez, a defense author, from an article he did on the defensive use of the 30-30:

I think he uses the Galco.

 

I'm with Mannlicher, I don't like them, don't use them, and see no need for them.

 

My Marlins (particularly my 1894's) are among my first choices as "Ready Rifles". They are relatively innocuous looking, even in an urban environment, and I keep them handy, along with more serious firepower. I'm not expecting trouble, but it rarely announces itself, and I absolutely HATE getting caught unprepared, for anything.

Seven or eight rounds in the mag tube, and nine more on the stock should be enough to put the kibosh on any local trouble, or at least give me a chance to unleash the Big Dogs.

In hunting situations, three in the gun and a couple in your pocket is more than you'll likely need in three years, if you do it right.

 

My Marlins (particularly my 1894's) are among my first choices as "Ready Rifles". They are relatively innocuous looking, even in an urban environment, and I keep them handy, along with more serious firepower. I'm not expecting trouble, but it rarely announces itself, and I absolutely HATE getting caught unprepared, for anything.

Seven or eight rounds in the mag tube, and nine more on the stock should be enough to put the kibosh on any local trouble, or at least give me a chance to unleash the Big Dogs.

That's pretty much my line of thinking. I'm just outside of downtown L.A., but will be moving closer to the urban center as I advance my career. Between the L.A. Riots pt II, looters after a big quake, or anything else I'm likely to face as a civilian acting in a defensive scenario, I'd rather have the 1894C than settle for gimped CA legal ARs and AKs.

 

Seven or eight rounds in the mag tube, and nine more on the stock should be enough to put the kibosh on any local trouble, or at least give me a chance to unleash the Big Dogs.

I think it was Jeff Cooper who said, "The only thing a pistol is good for, is to fight your way to your rifle."

 

I believe you're right, Bill. And one of his proteges still repeats it quite often. Some feller named Smith.

It was Cooper who introduced us to the idea of the Urban Rifle, and suggested that one of the ideal candidates for the job was a lever-action 30-30. The only weakness he could fine with it were the tangs that hold the buttstock.....he felt a properly-applied buttstroke to an enemy combatant's head might bend them.

Cooper was the father of Modern Weaponcraft, and he was a big fan of the levergun, in rifle calibers. I can't see more than a block in any direction in my neighborhood, so I feel a 158-grain JSP at 1800 fps should be enough. If I can see it, I can hit it, as far away as I'm likely to feel threatened by it.

 

I never have seen the since in these. I use a $5 walmart gunblet that held 20 rounds. I took it to a seamstress and had 34 more loops sewed on.

54 rounds around the belly lasts a long time, GI big boom boom