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Optics, Bino's, Scopes and Dots.

I'm not familiar with them.

Jack

 

Well jeeze, no wonder I couldn't find it!

 

I have one that I sometimes use on my Rossi 357. Years ago I had a FF2 on a 308SDT and it held up fine.

 

Cant comment on the Burris but did run an Aimpoint red dot on my Marlin lever for a few months. It worked really well, quick to the eye and looked ok. In the end however I replaced my Skinner rear sight, sighting is slower, but accuracy is improved. Most of my shooting with the lever runs 25-100yds. This is no doubt related to my personal stance and eyesight.

 

I have always thought that leverguns should remain light and fast on target and that meant iron sights only.
Reality stepped in with advancing age to make some kind of coplanar optic necessary.
The burris fastfire 3 is a small footprint mini red dot which reduces everything to 1 highly visible red dot on target and puts me back into the light and fast on target mode with my henry big boy all-weather in 44 mag.
I have it mounted on an egw picatinney rail on the back of the receiver.
I love it.
It’s lightning fast and deadly accurate.
I’m plinking in the woods with a light levergun like I did when I was 18.

 

I like the holosun hs510c as well.
It’s a bit bigger but the battery lasts a lot longer and you have the option of a dot inside a circle, a dot or just a circle that are adjustable to nearly a dozen levels of brightness.
It would be a toss up between the burris fastfire 3 and the holosun hs510c.
They are both reasonably priced.

 

Another close competitor which I use often on 22s is the bushnell trs25.
Looks like an oversized thimble and is a superb optic.
By far the cheapest of the 3 optics I mentioned.
Amazing quality for the price.

 

I run the Fastfire on my Rossi .44, and my muzzleloader.
I've got another I plan to use on one of my .30-30s.
Great little sight!





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Just bought a Speed Bead for my Benelli Supernova (use it as a slug gun) with the intention of putting a 3MOA Fast Fire on it.

(The Fast Fire also has Picatinny rail attachment) which could be used on the scout rail I just got for the Chiappa Alaskan in .44mag

So, then if I don't like the 1.5-5x33 Leupold VXR Scout that arrived I'll use the red dot!

 

I have several Fastfire III's. Two of them ride the slides on my Glock 40 and Glock 41. This year will be my third season using them on the Glocks and they just keep on ticking. The other two have moved around on a number of rifles/shotguns and again they have never skipped a beat. On rifles I use the "Burris Picatinny Mounts" to provide a measure of impact protection. Link here: https://www.amazon.com/Burris-Fastf.../B0016SCH10/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1518100192&sr=8-8&keywords=burris+fastfire+3

If one ever dies the Burris lifetime warranty kicks in and it will be fixed/replaced. Great for old eyes out to a "Wisconsin" deer hunting ranges and deadly at the 50 yard pistol range!!

 

Just make sure you don't have a stigmatism, like me. I tried to use one and I actually see three dots, in a triangle. :hmmmm2: Crosshairs look normal to me, but illuminated sights, not so good. Otherwise, I like the concept, and I have a red dot on an AR rifle. I guess I'd better go get my eyes checked. :fisheye:

 

The Fastfire III is a good sight. But I don't recommend mounting it anywhere on the rear of a rifle because of severe parallax. It needs to be out on a pistol (what it's really made for) or mounted in front of a long gun receiver.

Here is the one I mounted on my Garand.

Here is an example of the parallax. If I were to fire that the shots would be hitting way right of the red dot! The effect at 50 yards was really, really bad. What you cannot see is the vertical parallax. It was just as bad.

Burris specs say "parallax free" but that just isn't the case. At normal distances from the eye the parallax is inconsequential but with only 5 or 6 inches of eye relief it becomes very apparent.

 

The Fastfire III is a good sight. But I don't recommend mounting it anywhere on the rear of a rifle because of severe parallax. It needs to be out on a pistol (what it's really made for) or mounted in front of a long gun receiver.

Here is the one I mounted on my Garand.

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Here is an example of the parallax. If I were to fire that the shots would be hitting way right of the red dot! The effect at 50 yards was really, really bad. What you cannot see is the vertical parallax. It was just as bad.
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Burris specs say "parallax free" but that just isn't the case. At normal distances from the eye the parallax is inconsequential but with only 5 or 6 inches of eye relief it becomes very apparent.

Ok, now you have me wanting one for my M1 Carbine now! I have a Plainfield with an Ultimak railed handguard, currently has a SightMark Aimpoint clone on it, a FF3 would be mucho better.

I'd never do that to my Garand, it's fine as it is.

 

This is my lil' Winnie, Thumper. Want to replace that cheap and ugly BSA lump on it now. I had a scope on it at first, so I have both mount pieces and the screws already. The rear mount sits right in front of the hammer, where a peep would go, so that's where I'd put the the FF3.

Found a local feller thinking about selling two FF3's he has, now I gotta find some cash.

 

The rear mount sits right in front of the hammer, where a peep would go, so that's where I'd put the the FF3.

IMO that's much too close to your eye for the Fastfire. It would be okay if you never planned on shooting anything more than 50 yards away. But even at 50 yards the parallax will make it hard to shoot better than a 4" or 5" group.

If you put your hands up like you are aiming a pistol and imagine where the rear pistol sight would be that's the right distance from your eye for the Fastfire. That's where it was made to be mounted.

You could mount the Fastfire on your Winchester where the rear sight was. That'd be perfect. But even the front of the little rail you installed would be better than mounting it at the back of the action.

 

I'm wondering if there might be something amiss with your Burris sight, or setup Grenadier.
I have no problem shooting sub 2" groups at 100yds with my T/C Contender Carbine muzzleloader with the Fastfire in the rear slot of the scope base.




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I also would like to add that they're advertised as parallax free.




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