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Buffalo Bore Heavy .30-30

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Anyone have any experience using the Buffalo Bore Heavy .30-30 on hogs?
 
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It is the other way around. The Bufalo Bore heavy 30-30 is loaded with the 190gr Hawk bullet, intended to duplicate the orginal 303 Savage bullet.
I use this this bullet in the 303 Savage, 30-30and 300 Savage. I have also tested the bullet/load here http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/a...m/ammunition-test-results/150046-bullet-tests-focus-30-cal-190-hawk-35-rem.html In testing and actual use, it has proven to be a very soft bullet, ideal for deer. The factory loaded Winchester Power Point is a much better penetrator, for hand loading the 170 Sierra is toughest, sombody is going to mention the 170 Speer Hot Core, but it is also soft. The Buffalo Bore 190gr should be about the last 30-30 load a person should choose for heavy game, but they like to hype it up.

See .30-30 Winchester (.30 WCF ) for a good write up 30-30 load performance on actual game. Note their informed opinion: From softness to hardness the order is Speer, Remington, Hornady, Hornady being identical to other Hornady .30 cal round nose bullets and the Sierra also being identical in relative hardness to other .30 cal projectiles in the Sierra line. They do not mention Winchester, but it has proven many times to be the best penetrator 30-30 bullet of any I have tested, short of FMJ, and it does this with an adequate wound channel
 
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While I have never shot a hog with a 170 grain 30-30, I have shot quite a few steel targets with 170 grain Core-Lokts at 100 yards. I can say from common sense experience that the force those suckers wallop that steel with is way more than sufficient to drop a hog in its tracks.

I have no bone to pick with Buffalo Bore, but I see no advantage to buying expensive ammo in a heavier than normal bullet weight to do something when standard 170 grain loads from Remington, Winchester and Federal have proven themselves over and over again for decades.
 
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I and many others around here use plain Winchester Super X 150gr on hogs with very good results. I don't use the 30-30 very much now but I still carry the Winchester 94 occasionally on the ATV as it's very compact and is kept loaded with this ammo. It's cheap and local Walmart carry it all the time. Both my Winchester and Marlin prefer the 150 gr over the 170gr in terms of accuracy...your rifle may prefer something else.
 
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as others have said - most any 30-30 round will take care of a hog - since I hand load, all my 30-30 hunting loads are either 160gr cast w gc or 170gr nosler partitions....everybody worries about the shield on a boar - they are tough, but a long way from bullet proof....just find one that shoots good and go....

my choice of bullets was made for me when I stumbled on a very good price for 170gr RN, NP's.....other than that, 30-30's and 35R loads are all cast with gc....
 
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I have a few 303-30 rifles and never has a jacketed bullet pollute their bores one I owned them. :trytofly:Seriously I've never seen the need, a 170 gr. Lyman #311291 killed deer just fine. I did have a .303 Savage for a while which interested me do an RCBS #30-189-FN that cast a 190 gr. bullet in my alloy worked just fine and killed deer very nicely. I've always wondered why Winchester never used that 190 gr. Silver tip bullet for the .303 in the 30-30? I knew a few old timers years back that swore the .303 Sav. was a much better killer on game. Never shot anything but deer with mine and it worked just fine. I know the RCBS bullet I mentioned at 11 BHN will pass through the average deer from exhaust pipe to appetite.
Paul B.
 
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Shot on 24 Feb 16,Abilene Texas,with a Federal .30-30 factory load,170 grain Speer bullet. Speer and Federal are both owned by ATK,so a lot of Federal ammo is topped with Speers. Nothing wrong with a good ol' Hot-Cor,they're a tough bullet,and hang together well.
My friend Dennis is 6'5" and 280+ lbs. This is not a little piglet.


Rob