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.35 remington N135 powder help needed

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#1 ·
New to the community but not at all new to my Marlin 336A in .35cal Remington. I am also very new to reloading as well.. a year ago I stopped at a dealer and asked for power to reload my .35r with, he gave me the N135. Now here I am trying to reload and cannot find the data anywhere so I know what the starting load (grs) weight and the Max load (grs) weight are and so I can figure out where I should be with what I have.. I need "experienced" help please. This is what I have;

Hornady FTX 160gr
VihtaVuori N135 powder
Federal GM210M primers
New remington brass and reclaimed remington brass..

I am disabled and a father of 10, money is tight even on a good day so, with the world the way it is, I have a feeling of "need" to reload now what I can, and during my travels this year ill try and find more correct components that there is data available for, in the meantime, I only have been able to get my hands on 100 primers, I have 250 empty brass so, I need to continue gathering what I can this year. I have .308 and .270 as well that I'll reload this year and I get more familiar with the proses and components needed.. I would greatly appreciate experienced help here on what is a good weight that can be used, my first loads I did were with; IMR3031 @ 35.4grs with the 160gr FTX With the help of a friend who said he has been reloading for years, ran out of that powder though, haven't shot any of them yet as he didn't have the crimp die, I just got the factory crimp die last week and sent them all threw, now I wait to fire a couple this year.. Thank you for any information given, I really appreciate it.
 
#2 ·
I'm just not sure that VV publishes data for 35 Rem, especially in their newer tables. There may be something in one of their older pamplets ... I'll head out to the mancave and see what I can find out there tomorrow friend.

N135 oughta do-it just fine but I'll be danged if I have a recipe for it off the top of my head. Good crew around here, someone may have some N135 data for those FTX pills ... which, btw, I love to handload those I just don't use N135 and I'm a well known VihtaVuori fanboy. I've got pounds and pounds of it in every flavor from N120 to N555.

We'll help you to figure something out even if I gotta send you some powder I know works well with 35 Rem friend. You're lucky to have 35 Rem brass to reload. It's scarce'r than hen's teeth right now, almost impossible to find. Matter of fact I think Starline has officially quit making-it.

... and also, welcome to this forum.
 
#4 ·
This is from the Hornady 9th Edition handbook, 35REM 20" bbl 1 in 16" twist, bullet diameter .357 - .358 diameter - max C.O.L. 2.525" - Max case length 1.920" - Case trim length 1.910".
200gr FTX and 200gr Interlock RN bullets
VIHT N-135 starting load 1600V = 30.2gr, 1700V 31.9gr, 1800V 33.6gr, 1900V 35.2gr, 2000V 36.9gr, Max load 2050V 37.7gr.

There is no 160gr FTX bullet for 35REM, that bullet is for 30-30, 308ME, and 307WIN. There are two different 160gr FTX bullets, 30-30 and 307WIN use the shorter ogive bullet of the two while the 308ME uses the longer ogive bullet.

Been loading some 50+ yrs, is that enough? LOL

Hope this helps.

Jack
 
#5 ·
Hi Cowboy.....welcome aboard the forum from Texas.......great that you are starting the reloading....now you are independent of the Ammo market....but .....you still have to navigate the Componets market.

As Jack said....the correct Hornady FTX bullet for your 35 rem would be the 200gr..
They are .358 diameter ...which is correct for the 35 rem bore.

I mistakenly bought some Hornady 35 caliber FTX bullets once...in 165gr.... I believe.
These bullets were really .355 diameter ...and ment for the 350 Legend cartridge.
I did test these by loading up 20. They are undersized so do not pose any pressure Risk in your 336 .
I found that a real nice, hard crimp was required to hold them in place in the 35 rem case. I also have Lee crimp die ...so it worked out OK. My concern was ...Accuracy?
Well after shooting them at 100 yds.... I was pleasently surprised at the groups I got ??
Not bad at all...

I stick with the old ...tried and true Powders for the 35 rem. The ones I have found lots
Of load data for are the IMR 3031, IMR 4064...and the LeverEvolution powder which is
Tested in Hornadys manuel.
 
#7 ·
I'll be 🤦‍♂️ you sir are correct on the .355" I just looked and now I have more concerns, being new to this, lessons learned are always learned the hard way for me as I've lived my life figuring things out for myself, being low income you can't afford to take it to the shop and pay their prices so, I do it myself when I can, this is one thing I don't want to take risks with and trusted the dealer when I asked him to get the needed components to do this and I didn't research them first, now I'm researching before taking any more steps and finding great information here from yall and I really appreciate it to the fullest extent.. Now, what do I do 🤷‍♂️ use what I have in all these messed up components or put it on the back burner until I gather the correct ones with actual data? Safer bet to wait I assume? Now, the power I can use for my .308 and .270 it shows so that's not waisted at least.. I will try to attach photos, youll see a original Remington projectile on left, center is Hornady projectile pulled from a factory Hornady round and then the new in box Hornady FTX 160grn 35cal .355" on the right, I held that projectile against the opening of a brand new Remington .35 brass and it dont slide in, would take some force, but still, im now slapping my forehead in my total embarrassment as im learning here, so I do appreciate the information and will still need more as you can see how "green" I am with this..


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#9 · (Edited)
this is what Speer Handbook #12 reported about using Viht.N133 in .35 Rem_ considering that the N133 in this jpg attached is a bit faster than your N135, and that your bullets are lighter than the Speer ones attached, you can obtain a recipe parameter about the 135 that you have on the safe side. (this of course if you had the right diameter bullets available ;)).
I won't dwell because I don't reload the .35 Rem., but in short words if I had one I wouldn't be afraid to use Viht.N135 under 165 or heavier .358 bullets.
here there is no shortage of expert hand loaders who, if necessary, will be able to explain this better than me with my translator.
hope can help_
 
#11 ·
Cowboy52, best advice I can give is twofold, 1). when working up loads start with low powder charge and work up slow watching for pressure signs. 2). You should pick up the newest Hornady Reloading Manual and read about reloading, a lot of good info to be had for beginners. Reloading is fun and safe as long as you know the basics and what NOT to do. So, read up and we have a sub-forum devoted to Reloading you can ask questions.

That said, I greatly prefer loading bullets with a cannelure to crimp brass so you don't get any bullets that jump or set back. Once crimped in the cannelure, they stay put to your overall length. This avoids any pressure spikes.

Jack