35 Buckhammer requires a rechambering where the 35 30 closer to reboring. Buckhammer is a tapered case. 35 30 has to be reloaded.
I almost sent a 30 30 with a rough bore out to get rebored but it shoots OK with jacketed bullets. 35 30 is not legal in straight case areas.
Cast bullet shooters like the 35 30 due to its longer neck. Very close in performance to the 35 Remington. Haven't seen much about JES lately but he would also rechamber and rebore to a 375/38 55. For a straight cased cartridge it might be better.

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35 Buckhammer requires a rechambering where the 35 30 just reboring. Buckhammer is a tapered case. 35 30 has to be reloaded.
I almost sent a 30 30 with a rough bore out to get rebored but it shoots OK with jacketed bullets. 35 30 is not legal in straight case areas.
Cast bullet shooters like the 35 30 due to its longer neck. Very close in performance to the 35 Remington. Haven't seen much about JES lately but he would also rechamber and rebore to a 375/38 55. For a straight cased cartridge it might be better.

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Think the conversation of a 30-30 to 35-30 the chamber also needs to be rechambered to fit the new neck diameter and bullet. I read there is a 35-30 chamber reamer so I'm pretty sure about the rechambering. The BH case length is 1.800", the 30-30 chamber might be too long for BH.
What I'm saying is, Henry and Remington probably took the idea from the 35-30 and just modify the parent case "30-30". Very smart, and if the 30-30 cartridge cases can be easily reformed to BH cases great for the reloader.

 

Yes the 30-30 case can be made into the 360BH, actually there is someone here who recently did so and posted on here.

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Yes, Thanks for reminding me.

 

The 35 30 has to be rethroated but the 35BH is a shorter case and might require shortening the barrel at the breech which means realignment for the sight position.
Use of the 30 30 case for the BH is a production short cut as the same bolt can be used. One reason they may not like the 35R is that it is it's own case.
There are those that believe the 338 bore is better than the 358 for the same uses. They would have to develop the bullets but down range they are more effective. A 33 30 would be better. Pope, the barrel maker turned out a lot of 33 40 as well as 32 40s.

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The 35 30 has to be re-throated.
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I'm not a gunsmith but would think shoulder and neck would have to be reamed too. I would think a gunsmith would simply use a 35-30 chamber to clean the chamber out.
PS. at least the upper part to neck of the shoulder or maybe when the neck is reamed to except the larger diameter for the .358" bullet will be all needed.
Just my thoughts.

 

I’m guessing nobody is doing a re chamber and would just sell their 30-30 to buy a 360 buck hammer (or something else like a modern gun chambered 35 Rem or 35 whelen)which all are less money than a vintage 30-30 lever gun in todays panic buy.

…if I did a re-chamber, I’d be all over the 358 win!

 

Agreed ! And unless you live in one of the straight wall states, really don’t see the need for the BH with the 35 Remington and 356 Winchester. Similar situation with the 350 Legend.

 

I’m guessing nobody is doing a re chamber and would just sell their 30-30 to buy a 360 buck hammer (or something else like a modern gun chambered 35 Rem or 35 whelen)which all are less money than a vintage 30-30 lever gun in todays panic buy.

…if I did a re-chamber, I’d be all over the 358 win!

Agreed ! And unless you live in one of the straight wall states, really don’t see the need for the BH with the 35 Remington and 356 Winchester. Similar situation with the 350 Legend.

I couldn't agree more. But the 35/30-30 was before the 35 Rem. It was said the 35/30 would have been the 35-cal. lever rifle if Remington didn't come out with the Model 8 & 82.
If I ever come across an old 30-30 with a burned-out barrel, I may do the same.
It will be a whole lot easier finding 30-30 brass to reform into 35/30 than brass or ammo for the 35 Rem. Now that I said that I own 2 336 35R, Rem,760-35R. Win. 356W., BLR. 358W. and don't live in a straight Wall cartridge state, If I did, I will own a Henry Buckhammer rifle. The BH has a lot of promises.

360 Buckhammer
Bullet: 180 GR. REM CORE-LOKT

Diameter: 0.358"

Case: Remington

Primer: Remington 9 1/2, Large Rifle

Accurate

1680

2.380"

34.2

2,274

37,100 PSI

38.0C

2,503

48,300 PSI

That's just about to 356 Win. MV.

 

I couldn't agree more. But the 35/30-30 was before the 35 Rem. It was said the 35/30 would have been the 35-cal. lever rifle if Remington didn't come out with the Model 8 & 82.
If I ever come across an old 30-30 with a burned-out barrel, I may do the same.
It will be a whole lot easier finding 30-30 brass to reform into 35/30 than brass or ammo for the 35 Rem. Now that I said that I own 2 336 35R, Rem,760-35R. Win. 356W., BLR. 358W. and don't live in a straight Wall cartridge state, If I did, I will own a Henry Buckhammer rifle. The BH has a lot of promises.

360 Buckhammer
Bullet: 180 GR. REM CORE-LOKT

Diameter: 0.358"

Case: Remington

Primer: Remington 9 1/2, Large Rifle

Accurate

1680

2.380"

34.2

2,274

37,100 PSI

38.0C

2,503

48,300 PSI

That's just about to 356 Win. MV.

you have more 35 cals than myself. I have a 1970 centennial 336, a limited run 7600 carbine both in 35 Rem and limited run 7600 in 35 whelen. I was debating on buying a 358 Winchester barrel for one of my ar10s but i it just feels awkward to hunt with a bulky and heavy AR for me. The other issue is I can only hunt with one gun at a time.lol. So alot if these cool guns don’t get use and collect dust in my safe.

I don’t think you’re ever gonna find a shot out 30-30 barrel…lol. I think It would next to impossible to accomplish that, but you might find one that’s rusted solid inside in the bore is pitted so bad that maybe somebody would be able to cut it large enough to get rid of the rust pitting on I doubt it. you’re better off to bite the bullet and just buy a modern 360 and get it over with and the other ones collect dust like mine… and then the 360 will when something new comes out. You sound like me 30 years ago. I had to buy every new gun and caliber out there and was obsessed with it. If I had half the money back that I bought, sold, and traded guns I probably could’ve bought a couple houses with them or a lot of hunting land. I’ve gotten smarter over the years and invested into smarter things.

 

I do not live in a straight wall state but I do have a 35/30-30 on a Marlin action and a rebored to 38-55 on a Ted Williams version of the Winchester 94. Both work about the same give or take. I see no need for the states that went with the straight wall cases other than some heavy lobbying from gun and cartridge manufacturers(look it up). Yes the 360BH is a modern take on the 35/30-30 which has been around since the 1890s.

 

I remember when the Rem. 7600 -35R. were available. Remington had special runs now and then. But I already had a Rem. 760-35R that I bought for $150. in new condition out the door in the late 80s.
I bought a Win.94AE. 356W. looking for a 307W. I ask the Store clerk if he had one, he said no but we have a Win. 356W., Can I see it I said. I looked it over, how much I said, clerk said $325. and 6% tax, I pulled out the plastic and its been with me ever since 1998. I guess I'm saying whatever rifle/shotguns I have were bought by chance.


Tripplebeard, I'm getting you're using logic about the 35/30-30 conversion. Well, I'm thinking project rifle.
If I used Logic every time I walk into a sporting store, I would probably walk out with a pair of shoes.

 

Something about new cartridges or strange ones that attract people. Many local a seemed to have to get a 350 Legend. Probably AR shooters as it's not all that great in a normal rifle zone. I have a very nice 35R Marlin and see no need for either a 360 BH or a 35 30. Although 360 brass may be more readily available. The 35 30 is a wild cat and brass has to be formed for it which is a big PITA and neither has an advantage over the 35 R. Federal is advertising a 35 R Hammer Down load using a 220 grai HP. Hornady may make a run for the brass. Don't know if I need either with my stock. Still have a few 200 Coreloks in stash and a box of LEs. Also some Speer 180 grain. Not that married to 35 calibers that I need another one.

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Yep 358 projectiles are not cheap or easy to come by. I cast mine. I also have over 2k in various jacketed .358s from 180 to 250 grains.. I probably don't need anymore .358 bullets in my lifetime but I'm sure I'll buy or trade for more.

 

I'm definitely a 35 guy but if I was having a 94 Winchester rebarreled or rebored, I'd go straight to the 38-55.

 

The 38 55 is about as good of a straight case deer cartridge as you can get. The Winchester BB375 was a modernized version and ahead of its time. I have the 38 55 Marlin CB and got it by trading off a 45 70. 45 70 kicked with upgraded handloads, was not needed for deer and the lead pot emptied pretty quick when casting. If you order from custom bullet makers like Hawk you can get lighter bullets for deer. Hawk claims the 220 is the most popular.
To get the most out of a 38 55 you have to handload. I cast a lot of bullets for mine and also have a few Barnes OS bullets. Cases can be made out of 30 30 brass but it's better to get its own. It is the basis for the 30 30 and all the related cases.

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Agreed on the .38-55 or .375 W. I have a H&R which Jessie bored out to .38-55 and I am pickled tink with it.

 

I sure love my .360 Buckhammer. While I don't live in one of those straight wall only states, I sure love shooting it and hunting with it. Can't wait for Ruger/Marlin to come out with one later this year or next. I've always preferred straight wall cases in my lever guns.

 

A .357 Magnum reamer could be used to open the neck on a rebored .30-30 or .32 Special, but better is to use a normal .35 "neck and throater" so that heavier bullets can be used and seated out. The .35-.30-30 rifle John Taylor did for me has a .362" diameter freebore for 0.10" and a 6-degrees Basic forcing cone. The twist of rifling is 1:16" the same as a .35 Remington and I load a 260-grain wide flatnosed LBT bullet with a compressed case full of 4895 for 1700 fps.