I just googled "32 Rem" and there is a thread over on "The High Road" which indicates that 32WSPL dies can be used to load 32 Remington. Check it out. I knew the data fit, but wasn't sure the dies would. Might save you some bucks - 32 Rem dies are pricey. 32WSPL dies seem to be everywhere. Hope that works for you.

Jeff
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I have to agree with that sweetwater! I was able to find a new set on midway. There reddings and run somewhat of like $80. I was hoping I could find an older set or just the FL die if someone didn't have any use for it. I did think about that, using the 32 spl dies, but I have 1 factory loaded 32 Remington cartridge and the sholders are different. the 32 win spl has a longer sweeping sholder close to the 30-30's, and the 32 rem has a light step of a sholder almost like the 35 rem only not as steep. I'm sure I could use the 32 win die to seat with, and if I needed to or wanted to I could probably use my 8mm FCD to crimp but doubt I would ever have any reason too. Its really a beautiful beautiful rifle, I made out really good on the deal, but I think im only gonna shoot cast in it. I'll see what I can do to take some pictures of it and post them. The research I did indicates that the rifle was manufactured in 1926. The blue is almost perfect, its still deep and bold with 3 very small spots that have a little white coming threw and 2 of them is on the floor plate, and the 3rd is a 1/6 wide strip about 1.5 inches long on top of the barrel where the buck horn sight elevator rides. The rifle came equipped from the factory with the buck horn rear sight and a nice lyman peep, so I removed the buck horn sight an saved it incase I ever want to put it back on.

 

The model 30 Remington is a bolt gun. I seriously doubt that you would need to FL size and certainly would not want to touch that shoulder. Think I would start with "partial sizing" with the 32WSPL sizer backed out enough to miss the shoulder, but pull enough of the neck down to get a good grip. I'd check the numbers on your 8mm sizer as it would size the neck and never touch the body if the case. I'm sure something will work. The 8mm sizer is set up for thicker brass than the 32WSPL, so would not size as tight as the 32WSPL sizer. Time to explore the possibilities.

Jeff
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No I was talkin about using the 8mm factory crimp die if I ever needed to crimp, but cant see any reason that I would need to. However if I HAD a FL size die I could form my own brass providing I had something to form from. That's why I wanted the FL. If I had something of the same head size I could form it to make what I need is what I was saying. My intentions were this: I can get some factory 30 rem ammo from my local gun shop, its new manufacture. My plan was to pull the bullets and save them for the 30-30 or something else 30 cal, and run the new 30 rem brass into the 32 rem FL die which would give me virgin 32 rem cases. Then the exciting part for me was gonna be the wider range of bullet choices because the fact its a bolt gun. I can figure out which cast 8mm bullets will work in the magazine (most should anyway) and see how much performance I gain with the 8mm bullets, apposed to my usual RCBS 32-170-FNGC cast bullets.

 

I was almost in the same boat about 6 months ago. I seen a real nice 32 Rem pump. A friend of mine has about 10 boxes of vintage 30 Remington ammo. My plan was to get few boxes of 30 Rem ammo and pull the bullets, anneal the necks, and use a Redding tapered expander ball to bump the necks up to .32 cal, then seat with my 32 WS seater. I figured I'd have enough ammo for a while then try a Redding 32 WS neck die to reload my converted cases. Well, the rifle deal never went thru, so I found another 32 WS.

 

Im not really sure why the 30 and 32 rem became so obsolete, but the 30-30 and 32win spl, ESSPECIALLY the 30-30 are still a couple of the most common rifle cartridges of the day. I mean they were all pretty much the same ballisticly. I've heard good things about the old rem pumps, and this model 30 Remington express I have is just so nice. I mean I am a bolt gun buff and my 2 most favorites are springfields an mausers, and the model 30 is basicly a m1917, that's where Remington got most of the parts from, and I just cant say enough about it. Im not a big Remington fan, but its really grown on me. breaking my heart to see it just sit on one of the racks knowin I cant shoot it.

 

I cant sleep, Im gonna take a couple pics right now an see if I can figure out how to post them here. I like it even more too because I barley have $50 invested in it lol...hey that guy just had to have that junker 380 I had.

 

I want to see some pics! I'm anti-Remington when it comes to the new stuff, but I can't get enough of the old. You're gun was made when Remington was still an excellent company. I'd be proud to have that gun.

 

I took the pictures but I gotta wait until my girl friend gets up for work to get me the cord to transfer them to the computer, typical woman...can leave nothing alone everytime I set somthin down somewhere she comes along cleanin an hides it on me! Talkin bout hey, cheese aint got no business on a turkey samich!

 

LOL, sounds like my house. I remember where the last time I used something and expect to find it the next time, but it's lost because it got put away. Doesn't make sense to me either.

 

You should be able to fire form your 30 Rem brass to 32 Rem. Just load about 5g of Bullseye or other fast pistol powder and top with a wad of toilet paper or paper towel. Fire it straight up, and the neck should be blown out to 32 cal. Then you can use your 32spl dies with a 30 Rem shellholder to load them.
M.

 

i shoot 25 rem. 30 rem 32 rem and 32 HPS all you have to do is run the 30 brass into the 32 special die it will neck it up with no trouble at all, then load it full power and shoot it in your gun, there is no need to use a light load to fire form, very simple. H 4895 is the powder choice for my 32 rem. in model 8 remington.

 

So..with the 30 rem brass just run it into the 32spl die enough to neck it up to 32 cal, but not enough so the sholder makes contact in the die? That makes sence enough, I knew I didn't need to fire form it, because the cases are identical. However after ive shot it the first time, to reload it again..? It needs to at least be neck sized without moving the sholder, how would I go about that with 32 spl dies? Can it be done? That's what was making me think I could do everything I needed with just the FL die.

 

there is a slite difference in the shoulders of the two, just adjust your die until in makes contact with the full length of the neck but not far enough to contact the shoulder, then you have it. to set the die you just back the die off then start screwing it down and size the neck and you will be able to see on the neck how far it is sizing it. kepp turning the die until it has sized the neck. you may have to adjust the depriming stem to extrect your primer.

 

Hey I appreciate it. I'll give it a shot! been pretty excited to shoot it. However i'll still try an obtain a set of dies just cause. The more I look this rifle over i'm pretty sure its been fired before, however I would be willing to bet my life its never had anymore than 2 or 3 boxes threw it. Besides a couple of light dings in the wood and a few small minor wear marks on blue, it looks like it came off the line yesterday from Remington, instead of 87 years ago!

 

The only thing I mite add is Rem 14 &141 pumps may not feed flat nose . According to the boys on the Rem web sight they like round nose bulits. ALlso Lee makes a fc die for the 32 win special. WW

 

i had feeding problems with my 14 carbine, what i found out it was not because the bullets were flat but because the flat bullets are to long. i seat the flat ones at the top of the cannelure and they work.

 

Pictures as promised. Sorry the lighting was horrible but youll have that from time to time.

 

man that is a nice rifle. if you have some try 4895 powder, you will be pleased.

 

Ya I have 5 or 6lbs of imr 4895 left. that and imr-4350 and varget are my most used rifle powders for jacketed bullets. I think mostly ill just shoot cast in this model 30. The thing about it that's making me excited is, it is a M1917 action. Remington utilized a lot of GI parts in the production of these rifles, and even the very early ones were cock on close just like the M1917. This one I have is a cock on open which I like better. The box magazine has the same inside DIA. as the M1917 which were chambered for 30/06. With this being the case, I can use just about any 8mm bullet which is more of a selection and I can see the difference in performance between those and my standard 32 cal RCBS 32-170-FN.

 

I like the 8mm cast bullets in my 32WSPL. My rifle likes the fatter bullets.

Jeff
NRA Life

 

in my model 8 remington 32 i now only shoot cast bullets in it i use of imr4895 with the rcbs 170-FP that powder works with jacket or cast very well. i use the same bullet in my 32 hps marlin 336 with the same powder 30.5 gr. they kill deer dead also.

 

Ya I have some RCBS 170 FP I've been using in my 32 win but I like the idea of being able to use the 8mm bullets with the bolt action I don't have to keep to FP bullets. Theres a lot of styles and weights available for the 8mm