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30 Carbine Ammunition

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#1 ·
I got into the M1 Carbine game late, so I don’t reload for it yet or have thousands of rounds to feed it.
On my weekly stop at the LGS I came across some ammunition that he took in, ended up buying ~450 rounds and 3 magazines.
Can anyone tell me about the 2 bandoliers of WCC pictured? It is lot 6764 and head stamped WCC 52.
I have never seen tan bandoliers before but I am new to this.

My rule is to not fire reloads I didn’t make, but some of the ammo was reloads so I pulled one and it looked like 14 grains of W296 looking powder. They shot pretty good at 50 yards out of my 1942 Inland. Was aiming at bottom of orange diamond.

REK
 
#3 ·
I got the carbine in a package deal from a coworker's family friend. $600 for the M1 and a 1951 39A that had seen better days. Put a few dollars and sweat equity to get them going and both are real shooters now.
I picked up a couple of bandoliers of the Korean surplus before the election at ~56 cents a round.

I think I did OK on the recent ammo purchase, estimated 37 cents a round after discounting for the magazines.
Not shooting the half dozen rounds of LC 52 head stamp ammo with brass primers, I read that they are Chinese knock offs made during the Vietnam War and are corrosive primed.

I am interested in knowing more about the ammo in the tan bandoliers if anyone knows.

REK
 
#5 ·
Great M1 carbine

it's hard to say what that ammo is being people been using the M1 Carbine since they came out for Mil. or Police
BUT WCC 52 would be Winchester case company 1952 so from Korean war era

I have shot my carbine 1000's of times, and all my reloads
this gun is able to shoot any ammo you find because they are almost blow proof, the action is so over kill

the 30cal US has it's own ball powder called H110 same as the bullet 110g .308
I'm sure the reloads you have are using H110 14g sounds right, I load mine @ 12g because I was shooting inside 25y and save powder
I would shoot the reloads, guns made for military use are made strong, can shoot ammo made by anyone

loading this round is easy but it has a few extra steps being a straight wall case and case length is important because the gun head spaces off the rim of the case
but I use Berry 110g copper plated for low cost and they work great and H110
when the H110 was $20LB I was making $.13 a round
 
#6 ·
Great M1 carbine

it's hard to say what that ammo is being people been using the M1 Carbine since they came out for Mil. or Police
BUT WCC 52 would be Winchester case company 1952 so from Korean war era

I have shot my carbine 1000's of times, and all my reloads
this gun is able to shoot any ammo you find because they are almost blow proof, the action is so over kill

the 30cal US has it's own ball powder called H110 same as the bullet 110g .308
I'm sure the reloads you have are using H110 14g sounds right, I load mine @ 12g because I was shooting inside 25y and save powder
I would shoot the reloads, guns made for military use are made strong, can shoot ammo made by anyone

loading this round is easy but it has a few extra steps being a straight wall case and case length is important because the gun head spaces off the rim of the case
but I use Berry 110g copper plated for low cost and they work great and H110
when the H110 was $20LB I was making $.13 a round
Thank you for the information makes me feel a little better about the reloads.
What primer did you use for your reloads? I have lots of CCI 400's but only a thousand Rem 6 1/2.
Maybe I will order a set of dies and try some of the Berry plated bullets.

REK
 
#7 ·
"the 30cal US has it's own ball powder called H110 same as the bullet 110g .308"

FWIW, H110 and W296 are exactly the same powder. The WCC is I believe Western cartridge Company, a subsidiary of Winchester as in Winchester-Western.
Paul B.
 
#10 ·
Just be careful of WWII ammo it was corrosive. the stuff from the 50's is good. Also, I bought some M1 carbine ammo from the CMP ---it was Aquila brand from Mexico----it was all over the place out of my carbine. I pulled a couple of heads and found it was undersized----like .307 diameter.
 
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#15 ·
Nice looking carbine, and congrats on the ammo and magazine score!
 
#16 ·
From the very beginning of issue, all American made .30 Carbine ammunition was/is non-corrosive primed. All foreign made ammunition is suspect, some is corrosive, some not. I refer you to Cartridges of the World by Frank C Barnes, copyright 1972, page 66 and page 347.

Handloading full powder rounds with plated bullets may or may not work out for accurate shooting. Give it a try, see if it's OK. Jacketed bullets would be a better choice. At one time you could buy jacketed soft nose bullets for reloading and JSP factory ammunition.