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30-30 Win 150 gn or 170 gn

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#1 ·
I see a lot of folks swearing by 170 gn 30-30 Win loads for hunting. I always liked 150's in my 336's or 94's. Let's discuss pros and cons.
 
#2 ·
170’s have a litle more punch, but 150’s kill em just as dead. Which is best, or better, Depends on what flavor your rifle likes and shoots best or better IMO.
 
#5 ·
Mine both shoot 170’s better. And they both shoot Remington corelokts great. Neither one shoots 150’s well, and neither likes Winchester ammo. So, I stocked up on a lifetime supply of what they both shoot well.
 
#6 ·
The 1981 336 30-30 that I picked up this past spring seemed to like the Winchester 170g power points the best out of the several ammo types that I tried it out with, so I'm going with those for now.

My daughter used that combo for her first deer which was DRT when she shot so I have no complaints.
 
#7 ·
Both are leathal... It depends on the gun... My 30-30's all like the Federal 170gr Round nose bullets... They shoot near identical to the REM 120gr managed recoil ammo... Both have dropped me deer in the twin tiers of southern NY and northern PA..
 
#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
Both are lethal... It depends on the gun... My 30-30's all like the Federal 170gr Round nose bullets... They shoot near identical to the REM 120gr managed recoil ammo... Both have dropped me deer in the twin tiers of southern NY and northern PA...
Hey, you are from my neck of the woods! I live in Galeton.
 
#15 ·
Well I take it that given the relatively short ranges fired with an iron sighted 336 with a 20" barrel and the slight velocity gain with 150 gn bullets fired from it, it makes sense to use 170 gn bullets if the gun shoots them accurately. For the record I am a firm 180 gn 30-06 man; 150's don't interest me in the least with my 30-06. I have a bunch of 150 gn Sierra flat nose bullets that I inherited. Maybe my gun won't like 170's but my luck it loves them! Thanks to all.
 
#17 ·
Well I take it that given the relatively short ranges fired with an iron sighted 336 with a 20" barrel and the slight velocity gain with 150 gn bullets fired from it, it makes sense to use 170 gn bullets if the gun shoots them accurately.
That has been my experience. My 336W shoots 150gr more accurate than 170gr.
 
#18 ·
all three of my .30-.30`s like the 150gr. a tiny bit more. I load with Hornady interlocks, RP brass and CCI primers. The factory corelokt`s shot ok (seemed like a hotter load) but not as good as my handloads,both 150 and 170. The 170`s didnt shoot too bad either. Any of these rounds though would work just fine. I`m gonna stick with my Hornady 150`s
 
#24 ·
I have 20 boxes of 30-30 ammo in assorted bullet weights. I stack them in no particular order but I do try to keep the oldest on top. I've killed a lot of deer in my 60+ years of hunting. I never paid attention to what bullet weight I had on hand, just whatever I grabbed at the store. Every deer I killed sustained massive internal damage regardless of bullet weight...... I fail to see any concern about bullet weight at the distances the 30-30 is designed to kill. Shot placement is everything. JMHO
 
#25 ·
I see a lot of comments about the 170 having more punch / thump than the 150, but that would depend on how you measure punch / thump. The energy of a bullet is known as momentum and is calculated as mass times velocity.

The 150g bullet is about 12% lighter than the 170g, but in 30-30 factory loads the 150g muzzle velocity is 9% faster than the 170. Because of velocity, ballistics charts show the 150g having more energy than the 170g from the muzzle out to about 60 - 65 yards.
At the muzzle, the 150g bullet has about 9.6% more energy than the 170g at factory load velocities for each, but at 100 yards, the 170g has about 9.5% more energy than the 150g.

The lighter bullet will also expand quicker and do a little more damage.

There's another factor to consider; sectional density. The 170g wins here which means it will penetrate deeper, especially at ranges greater than 60 yards or so.

So, the 150g might perform best for deer at close range (under 75 yds) unless the hunter wants to break down the shoulders to prevent the animal from running. Beyond 75 yards, the 170g has more energy & penetration, but the shooter has to know where it will hit because the lower velocity means greater drop.

If hunting black bear or hogs and a shot might be over 60 yards, the 170g would be the most lethal.
30-30 ballistics info from Remington here==> .30-30 Win.
 
#30 ·
I load 150gr for 336 & 94win. also buy 150s in factory loads. Shot a lot of deer with 150gr with no problems. I don't scope 30/30s so
the accuracy probably wouldn't show up much. The 94 I only shoot 150gr. The 336, my main 30/30, I have shot everything from 1/2
jacket 100gr plinkers to 180Rns. I have 130gr Speer HPs loaded with Win powder that are super accurate but have to be single loaded.
I bought a bunch of Federal 125gr factory and save it for women & kids in deer season. None have made extremely long shots, all under a 100yds but the 125gr got their deer. Never had one go much over 50yds from hit. I've got 2 boxes of Hornady 90gr XTPs in .309" dia
that is next thing I want to try. If they are accurate will make a good Varmit load. A HP pistol bullet should almost explode out of a 30/30.