I own both, taken deer with both, but I like the 35Rem best, just MHO.

 

I have both a 35 and 30 30 and really have not seen any difference on game. I put a few deer down quick with the 35 but it was shot placement not caliber. With a lung shot no has proven that a deer hit with a 35 will run 30 yards while one hit with 30 30 35 yards or so. They always argue muzzle velocity but actually the 30 cal bullets retain velocity better and hit harder down range after maybe 50 to 75 yards. 30 30 will shoot flatter with normal bullets. Biggest argument is that now is the second time 35R ammo is hard to get while 30 30 ammo is on the shelves and is much cheaper. There is not enough difference to put up with the disadvantages.
Handloads may be different, but not enough to make me want to mess with the 35. 35 is its own case and cannot be easily made from another. So even for handloading it has disadvantages.

DEP

 

Enjoyed the read. Thanks for posting.

I shoot cast almost exclusively. So some on the bullet selection and velocities is something I tinkered with only a little, limited to the LeverEvolution bullets and velocities.

I enjoyed loading for both. As I did the .32 Special. I can safely say I prefer straight-wall like the 38-55 and 32-40 but not to the point of abandoning bottlenecks.

Enjoyed the short read nontheless.

 

Straight walls rock
Love my 375Win

 

I've downed deer and wild hogs with both cartridges and could not perceive a noticeable difference. But a Cree guide I knew in Saskatchewan took down huge moose every year with his antique 35 Remington. Seems like the old 35 might be better suited for truly large game. TR

 

It’s all situational. I had a 35 Remington that did barely, if anything, more than more 30-30, but couldn’t hold a candle to my 375, 444 Marlin, or .45-70. I’ve since sold it off and all my ammo and components for it. Considering selling my 3030 as well, it’s a beauty but I’m a straight wall man.

 

The Perfect statement, I have an older but perfect 336-RC.../ Do not have 35 Rem, but I do have Marlin in 45-70 Guide Gun these two should be the perfect guns in your safe. I was stationed in AK Maney, Maney years ago in the US Army, My 1st Sgt had an M-1 - Garand Tanker 30.06 model, all he stated he needed in AK.
Thanks
J.

 

30-30 👍🏻 ammo and reloading supplies are available 😉

 

Yep.. available EVERYWHERE

 

There is NO VS...........Both are grand calibers......I have both and kill deer with both...........Why ya wanna start an argument?

 

Sigh, ...It's all about shot placement, Inuit killed polar bears with there 30-30s, old..and new timers have killed tons of moose ,and elk too, same as the 35's. Maybe on paper you can show an improvement of one over the other, but in the real world? ....😁

 

I own a 30-30, a 32 WS, and a 35 Rem. And I like the 32 best. Just my opinion.

 

Like the article says--the 35 Rem hits harder than the 30-30 and I have seen this repeatedly during my deer hunts. Never had a DRT deer with a 30-30 but have them all the time with my 35s. The overwhelming choice for me is the 35 Rem which is why they go hunting with me and the 30-30s don't.

 

Not a big difference IMHO, but I prefer rimmed cartridges in leverguns so I like the 30 30 & 32 WS .

 

If you own both the question is mute. So, for me the question is mute.

 

I have shot a bunch of deer with a variety of cartridges. When lung shot I have not seen much difference. Used a 270 quite a bit. Threw away a couple of shoulders. Started with a 303 British. Now I have used a 6.5 CM a bit. My daughter has shot her first few deer with a 30 30 then her 300 Savage. I have taken a couple with the 300 Savage.
270 would do an amazing amount damage. Soup in the ribcage. Farthest I had a deer run was with the 270. It was on a field and the trail looked liked someone was dumping a red paint can. It dropped when it reached the woods. They do that a lot.
Other than wasted venison I have not seen much difference between what we call deer rifles. Most lung shoot to avoid waste. They will run mostly. I use Barnes copper in the 6.5 and shoulder shoot. That puts them down, wastes some meat but not like lead based bullets..

DEP

 

Interesting read, but hardly up-to-date. No mention of the improved ballistics from the Hornady LeverEvolution ammo for BOTH calibers. Also no mention of the availability of the Henry in 35 Remington.

From a practical standpoint, the 30-30 is far easier to find ammo and brass for than the 35 Remington. 30-30 also gets the nod if you're not a handloader.

Other than these points, it was a decent article.

 

I think most of us own both, but the question is not moot. Which do we prefer ? We play this game often with no right or wrong answers.

 

According to this chart the 30-30 wins. By a nose. In reality I don't see enough difference to argue over.

Comparing Velocity

And for those who like straight walled rounds the 360 Buckhammer is your daisy. I just hope it catches on and more rifles are offered. And ammo. I was in Academy a couple of days ago and the counter guy had never even heard of it. But even on one of the charts comparing it to the 30-30 the 30-30 won at 200 yards.

 

What I love most about the 35 is that its not a 30-30. Everyone has a lever gun in 30-30. Same reason I prefer the 250 Savage over the .243.

 

.35 Rem guy for 35 years. Never owned or loaded 30-30. Impressive how the 30-30 performs on paper. Hard to argue. With that said, I've never lost an animal with my .35. Would stack it up to anything within 120 yds.

 

Have both, love both, killed a crap load of deer with both, but hands down 35 REM puts them down. Never had one go more than a few yards hit with a 35. 30 kills but you better practice your tracking skills. The only deer I’ve ever lost was with a 30. Hit perfect, tracked it with heavy blood and rib bone for at least 250 yards into a clear cut with lots of slash and a creek. Gave up after 3 guys crisscrossed for over 3 hours. That said I’d hunt anytime with either. I hand load for both.

Thanks for the edit! Will not happen again.😅

 

I own both... Love both !!! If I have a black bear charging me down I don't care which one I have as long as they both go bang but .... If I had a preference I'd slightly lean towards the 35 remmy
I've shot plenty of pissed off pigs staring me down with the 30-30 , 35 rem heck the 45-70 ... 22 mag 17hmr main thing is what your comfortable with shooting and how well you shoot with It ! Too much pissing matches over caliber choice , in the right hands a 22lr against a grizzly is better than a 50bmg in the wrong hands , just my dumb rambling

 

Do you own either one?

 

I have many. Do you?

 

So what about the 30 Remington? Where does it lie in these debates and what was its downfall ?

 

Never had a DRT deer with a 30-30.

I have had plenty of “fall over on the spot” shots with my .30-30. I hunt with Barnes TTSX.

Interesting read, but hardly up-to-date. No mention of the improved ballistics from the Hornady LeverEvolution ammo for BOTH calibers.

Valid point. He does mention the availability of modern .30 caliber bullets, but you are right about the LE thing. For most (all?) his comparisons he uses Federals offerings to show what is readily available. Likely due to the relationship they have with Federal and the huge range of ammo Federa makes.

 

I have had plenty of “fall over on the spot” shots with my .30-30. I hunt with Barnes TTSX.

I have hunted with the SIerra Prohunter or Hornady Interlock 170 gr FP .308 bullets as compared to the Hornady 200 gr RN .358 Interlock. Both these bullets were at a similar price point when I bought them and are of similar construction---probably the only like apples to like apples comparison that is possible given the differences in bore diameter and bullet weight between the two calibers. There has been no comparison in my deer hunting experience---the 35 Rem wins hands down with the amount of DRT animals as compared to my 30-30s.

 

I posted the article merely as an interesting view on the age old debate. While I personally prefer .30-30, I don‘t think it’s “better” than .35 Rem. It’s just better for me. I don’t reload anymore, so given the scarcity of factory ammo in .35 it’s just more practical for me to shoot .30-30. As long as it’s a lever action, it’s all good!

 

I'm reminded of a scene from "My Cousin Vinny" when Joe Pesci and Marisa Tomei were discussing pants for a hunting trip. Pesci's character had been invited by the prosecutor to go hunting. The two were discussing pants options for the hunt when Marisa Tomei went into her story about the deer being shot once its lips hit the water for a drink. <Paraphrased> "Bang! Your brains are laying on the ground next to you. Do you really think that the deer cares about the pants that the guy who shot her was wearing?!"

Both the 35 Remington and the 30-30 Winchester are great calibers for taking game inside of 200 yards. I don't own a 35 Remington, so I have nothing to go on other than the paper statistics. I do agree with the author of the caliber battles. Both calibers are so close to each in ballistic performance it all comes down to hunter choice, cost, and availability. If you take out hunter's choice as that is a subjective criterion, the 30-30 wins at cost and availability.

As Marissa Tomei said, the deer doesn't care if he's hit by a 170 grain 30 caliber bullet, or a 200 grain 35 caliber bullet... shoot what you've got an what you enjoy.

 

lol - still a great movie.
Who can forget the 20 minute grits argument?