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#1 ·
Hi Guys,I was wondering what is the .218 Bee?I wonder what the bullet looks like,if its necked down like a .17HMR....A guy I used to work with had one,and mentioned it to me....Ive never seen one....Is that rifle worthy of looking into?
 
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#11 ·
I have always wanted a Marlin 1894 in the 218 bee.
Every auction I watch...they go over my limit on price.. seems like they command about $1300 to $ 1600 now. I have a bolt Ruger in 22 hornet and love shooting that.....Still find ammo easily for it....I would love to see Ruger come out with the 218 bee and a 22 hornet when they resume production of the 1894 ..
...am I dreaming ??
 
#13 ·
Wikipedia has a great section on cartridges and is a great source of information about the 218. It is a very fun cartridge to shoot and reload for but is almost completely obsolete now. I've had two, one was a winchester 1892 rebarelled to 218 and the other was marlin 1894 that was originally a 218 and had been rechambered to 218 mashburn bee. Both really accurate and easy to shoot and both sold to buy the next thing that caught my eye.
 
#27 ·
Winchester developed the first .218 Bee in 1937. Mashburn did an improvement similar to what Lyle Kilbourn did with the .22 K Hornet. The improvements are usually good for 50-100 fps more speed but not much more. The K Hornet is easier to load than the original Hornet and the cases usually last longer.
 
#19 ·
@Hepcat0 - I agree 100% with @bassetman1974 - "A 218 Bee is worth having"! I happen to love the .218 Bee to be honest with you. I am privileged to own a Ruger #1B in .218 Bee as well and it has been the demise of many a prairie dog and other assorted varmints, including coyotes! With the long barrel on the #1B, I am able to wring out some pretty fast rounds.
I also have a Browning 65 and Encore pistol and find them to be a lot of fun to shoot. I had an opportunity to buy an 1894 about 10 years ago - regrettably I by-passed it. . . .

In recent years factory .218 rounds have dwindled and become expensive. However, Hendershots still loads a variety of .218 ammo in some great loads and will provide ballistic information. I'd check them out.

It is more fun to hand load - there are .22 caliber bullets a plenty and lots of load data. Cases are available - just ordered some recently. H110 and IMR 4227 are good powder but some of the loads I like are done with 13 gr. of Lil Gun - with velocities at 3200 fps with a 30gr. bullet out of the #1. Of course if you go down this road - which I think you would find worth the effort, work up your own loads that work for your firearm

Of the .22 centerfires that I have, the .218 is about my favorite (with a .221 Fireball a very close second)

Good Luck with your quest!!
 
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@Hepcat0 - I agree 100% with @bassetman1974 - "A 218 Bee is worth having"! I happen to love the .218 Bee to be honest with you. I am privileged to own a Ruger #1B in .218 Bee as well and it has been the demise of many a prairie dog and other assorted varmints, including coyotes! With the long barrel on the #1B, I am able to wring out some pretty fast rounds.
I also have a Browning 65 and Encore pistol and find them to be a lot of fun to shoot. I had an opportunity to buy an 1894 about 10 years ago - regrettably I by-passed it. . . .

In recent years factory .218 rounds have dwindled and become expensive. However, Hendershots still loads a variety of .218 ammo in some great loads and will provide ballistic information. I'd check them out.

It is more fun to hand load - there are .22 caliber bullets a plenty and lots of load data. Cases are available - just ordered some recently. H110 and IMR 4227 are good powder but some of the loads I like are done with 13 gr. of Lil Gun - with velocities at 3200 fps with a 30gr. bullet out of the #1. Of course if you go down this road - which I think you would find worth the effort, work up your own loads that work for your firearm

Of the .22 centerfires that I have, the .218 is about my favorite (with a .221 Fireball a very close second)

Good Luck with your quest!!
Thank you for the nice reply. Hate to give out secrets, but CFE BLK is a magnificent powder in the 218 Bee. You can get higher velocities with Lil Gun but I like my nostalgic cartridges shooting intended factory velocity. CFE BLK does this easily with excellent accuracy.
 
#21 ·
I should have maybe jumped on that one that came under my nose..I had no idea what the .218 bee was at the time...I thought the guy was mistaken....Sounds like the perfect varmint round...We have a bad coyote problem here in PA now....Just like everywhere else...I sure do appriciate the knowledge guys...
 
#23 ·
I like them too. I have rifles chambered in 22 short, Long and Long Rifle, 22 magnum, (Marlins Of Course plus a couple Remington 552s), A pristine Marlin 1894 in 218 Bee, A Marlin 336 -based Ranger Point Precision in 219 Donaldson Wasp, a Ruger 77 in 22 Hornet, a Savage 24F 22 Hornet over 12 ga. and a Savage 99 in 22 Hi-Power. I can load the 219 Donaldson Wasp with 70 grain bullets to replicate the 22 Hi-Power (2800 fps at muzzle).

T.S.
 
#26 ·
LOL - You should want one and then have 2 or 3 more!!!!! Go get 'em!!!

I might have a few different .22 rimfire rifles from single shot, bolt, lever, auto and pump variations - no AR style tho - they never made sense to me in a.22 - personal taste.

When it comes to .22 centerfires in addition to the previously mentioned Bee rifles - there might just be a couple of ..221 Fireballs, .222 Rems (very accurate in the right rifle), .22 Hornet, and of course the .223 hanging around here someplace - now if I could just find them all......HA! the .22 centerfires are just plain fun

If you are considering a starting point for the .218 Bee, it might be easier to find a Contender or Encore pistol frame and getting a Bee barrel - outfit it with a good handgun scope - you might just surprise yourself.
 
#32 ·
the bee if one of the few calibers i have never owned but always wanted. but i have had many hornets. an i do love them,,,,,,,,,,,,