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1894 barrel removal

3.1K views 11 replies 6 participants last post by  WCG  
#1 ·
Hi Guys,
I'm having a real problem trying to remove the barrel from a .357 1894 serial 0409**** (so post JM).
I couldn't stop the barrel rotating in the vice, so made new blocks.
Then snapped my normal action wrench, so machined up a new one out of solid 4" x 1" stock.
Now even with all my weight on the wrench handle (26" long) it still won't budge.
Tried soaking in penetrating oil, tried warming up the receiver.....nothing doing.
Am I missing something?
 
#3 ·
I would not put the action in a vise unless you have some type of hard wood block to protect it. I used a mechforce barrel vise(there are others similar) and new leather pads with pine tar rosin on both the upper and lower leather pads, sprayed barrel with kroil everyday for 3 or 4 days, then put it in the vise, tightened the nuts with a lot of torque i used a 3/4 inch drive 6 point impact deep socket and ratchet. The first try the barrel started to spin so I stopped and re tightened the 4 nuts again. I used a 24 inch action wrench with another 25 inch breaker bar it finally broke loose on the second try. The leather was toast after that but it worked. I have done two marlins this way both times I had to use the extra breaker bar to break it loose they a were extremely tight.
 
#6 ·
+1. Gut the action and put the bottom plate/trigger mount back in. Leave the breechbolt out. It takes some torque to separate the receiver and barrel, keeping the bottom plate in will stop the receiver from warping. A really stout barrel vise is needed. The 4 bolt vise from Brownell's is strong enough.
Don't forget to mark the barrel and receiver so as to reassemble with the front sight at 12 o'clock high.
 
#7 ·
I've used leather and rosin, lead (chimney flashing), or depending on the type of barrel, aluminum inserts. Make sure you put the trigger housing in as Rob said above and tighten the screws. I haven't yet pulled a barrel on a Remington made Marlin so not sure if they used loctite or rocksett. If so, you need a bit more heat than just warming it up. I've had to heat a few over the years and use an electric heat gun. Some folks use a propane torch but I prefer a more even heat from the electric gun. Not sure what you had for a receiver wrench but it shouldn't have broken. For most of my work, I have a wrench made for the M1 Garand that also works ok on flat sided receivers like Marlins. I use leather on the sides to protect the finish. I haven't lost a battle yet, but I've had a few that ran me to the edge of wanting to surrender. The worst stuck one I ever did was an 1881.
For a penetrating oil, make a 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone. Use caution and don't use heat while it's still soaked and wet unless you want to burn things down. It will creep into the threads way better than Kroil or other thin oils, unless it has loctite or rocksett on the threads.
 
#10 · (Edited)
I've used leather and rosin, lead (chimney flashing), or depending on the type of barrel, aluminum inserts. Make sure you put the trigger housing in as Rob said above and tighten the screws. I haven't yet pulled a barrel on a Remington made Marlin so not sure if they used loctite or rocksett. If so, you need a bit more heat than just warming it up. I've had to heat a few over the years and use an electric heat gun. Some folks use a propane torch but I prefer a more even heat from the electric gun. Not sure what you had for a receiver wrench but it shouldn't have broken. For most of my work, I have a wrench made for the M1 Garand that also works ok on flat sided receivers like Marlins. I use leather on the sides to protect the finish. I haven't lost a battle yet, but I've had a few that ran me to the edge of wanting to surrender. The worst stuck one I ever did was an 1881.
For a penetrating oil, make a 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone. Use caution and don't use heat while it's still soaked and wet unless you want to burn things down. It will creep into the threads way better than Kroil or other thin oils, unless it has loctite or rocksett on the threads.
I was reading a discussion on using rosin and one guy said he used powdered sugar instead of rosin. He said it worked better. Just a thought.
 
#8 ·
Make sure the front scope mount screw is removed as that hole goes through to the barrel threads and can lock it in place. I've always just put some Kroil on the inside of the receiver on the barrel threads. Usually pretty quickly you'll see it make it's way through and they come off with much less effort than a Mauser barrel.