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The Marlin Model 88

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#1 ·
I recently received this nice Marlin model 88-DL as a gift from my very dear friend and fellow MO member, Maudite. Found in the used gun rack at small shop near him, he spent quite some time restoring it to the condition you see here…

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He did a fantastic job and the gun is in phenomenal condition for its age, both cosmetically and mechanically, with just enough small battle scars and wear to lend character. After receiving it from him, I spent the rest of the day admiring it, that evening exploring the inner workings, and the next few days developing a strong desire to learn more about this fascinating Marlin.

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The model 88 is a .22 LR autoloader, with a fifteen shot tubular magazine, fed through the butt plate. Originally wearing a 24 inch barrel with Ballard rifling, which was changed to Micro-Groove later in production, the standard version, the 88-C, was introduced in 1946. It is a man-sized rifle with an overall length of a bit over 45 inches, and tipping the scales at 6 3/4 pounds. Sights were the standard Marlin fare, a dovetailed rear notch with elevation slide and a hooded front bead.

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The 88-DL was not introduced until 1953 and differed from the 88-C by its hand checkered walnut stock, factory installed sling swivels, and a peep sight mounted to the rear of the receiver. In this example, the receiver is grooved for scope mounting and the barrel is Micro-Grooved, but the peep sight is understandably but regrettably missing, (if anyone knows where I could locate one, I would be forever grateful). Both versions of the 88 were discontinued in 1956, the DL having only a three year production run.

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A trip to the range proved the old gal could function just fine, fifty rounds passing through the very smooth action without a bobble. Loading was made easy by a shallow funnel in the butt plate leading to the mouth of the tube magazine. Without the original peep, I had to force these aging eyes to focus on the standard open sights, a very fine u-notch and bead combo. Even so, I was rewarded with ten shot groups at 25 yards hovering around one inch, often with six or seven of those holes clustering into a half inch. My eyes simply can not do better, and the addition of a vintage scope may be the next step to see what she is really capable of.

With Swany’s help, I was able to locate copies of some vintage advertisements….

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…but beyond this, there is precious little information available on this interesting old Marlin. Even here on MO, the only reference I could find was an unanswered question on the model 88, dating back to 2004. If anyone has any additional information, please feel free to add it to this thread.

Another heart felt thank you, Maudite. This rifle is a great piece of Marlin history, but it’s the time and effort you put into it, that makes it so special. You’re one in a million pal, and I’m honored to call you a friend.

Roe
 
#2 ·
Barenjager, thanks for the informative post.

So if I understand correctly, this gun loads through a tube in the buttstock, is that correct? How is it for taking down and cleaning? My impression is that it could be a maintenance nightmare, and complicated to manufacture. I don't know, that's just my impression.

Incidentally, if you're interested, I found this post in another forum: http://www.marlin-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7598

Thanks for sharing.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Actually takedown is quite easy. But a word of warning...as I was researching this rifle I found a few examples listed on the various auction sites. Invariably, each one had damage to the back plug at the rear of the receiver as shown in this picture taken from one of those auctions...

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :mad: :'(

Sad. ::) Pliars or vice grips are NOT needed. In fact, you will never get the back plug removed this way...it does not unscrew! Even my 88, as good as it's condition is, shows a little of this type of damage from some time in it's distant past...

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I had no parts diagram or takedown guide when I first began to disassemble this rifle, and my first impression was the same as many others have apparently and mistakenly thought...but it didn't take me long to realize the back plug removes easily, without tools. A little study and thought goes a long way in preventing harm. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's start at the beginning.

To disassemble the Model 88 for cleaning or maintenance, first make sure the rifle is unloaded, put the safety in the off position and pull the trigger to uncock the action. Remove the magazine tube...then unscrew the single stock bolt.

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Lift the barreled action out of the stock by tipping the barrel up slightly and sliding the barrel and receiver forward a little to clear the feed tube and trigger group, as can be seen in this picture...

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Once you have the action out of the stock, depressing the two opposing back plug retaining buttons simultaneously (as indicated by the red arrow), will alllow the back plug to be easily removed, along with the recoil spring, firing pin spring, recoil guide rod, and rear firing pin. The back plug contains the recoil and firing pin springs within the receiver and is under spring pressure. Control it as you remove it from the receiver.

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Pulling forward on the bolt handle will remove it from under it's retaining pin allowing the breech bolt to slide to the rear and be removed out the back of the receiver. Take down can continue, but for normal cleaning this is as far as is necessary. Pretty simple and straight forward, and in this way the bore may be cleaned from the breech. Reassemble in reverse order making sure the safety is to the rear before reinstalling the back plug.

What I thought was rather ingenious, was the way this take down feature was designed. The bulbous end of the recoil spring guide mates with tapered cuts in each locking button, forcing them outward under spring pressure supplied by the recoil spring. As the breech block travels rearward upon firing and compresses the recoil spring, additional pressure is exerted upon the buttons forcing them into even tighter contact with the receiver. A simple but effective design.

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As Swany pointed out, Numrich has some parts available for these old Marlins as can be seen in this link...
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=4092

He was also kind enough to forward a parts diagram...
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Roe
 
#10 ·
Thanks Barenjager for the info on the 88. I have a ole 88 and love it, I'm a prudy good size feller and the 88 fits me better than any of the rest of my Marlin 22 rifles. Seems to me like the stock is bigger and beefer than any other 22 rifle I've owned, thats why I say it fits me better. The receiver on mine is not grooved for mounting a scope. I never knew what years they were made, so thanks again for the info!!
 
#12 ·
What a fascinating rifle! I remember how exciting it is to take a new gun apart and try to decipher the details that let you disassemble it properly, some are more than a little challenging! This one had some neat engineering to it, and i wonder how many nice guns were buggered up by the impatient sorts, those who grabbed a wrench and started twisting?

Yours is certainly the nicest example of that model we're ever likely to see, and Maudite is to be congratulated on his metal-finishing skills, the receiver looks like it's new!

If you need to make some room in the Castile's Armoury, let me know. ;)
 
#16 ·
Mudpuppy and MtnHunter...both of your 88's look to be in fine condition. Thanks to both of you for adding them to this thread.

Prior to receiving this rifle from Maudite, I was only dimly aware of its existence, never giving any I may have seen more than a passing glance. Not only did his thoughtful gift change that, but it has created a desire to explore more of the .22 autos that were popular in the past, but seemingly forgotten today. Wood stocked and blued steel contemporaries of the 88, such as the Remington 550(-1), the Springfield/Savage/Stevens auto-family including the model 87A and model 6, the Higgins 29 and offerings from Winchester, Mossberg and others.

Many of these rifles have not attained collector status, most probably never will, but they are well made and interesting designs from a time when even the budget firearms were often of a quality we seldom see today. Most are still available at very reasonable prices, compared to the glamor guns of the same era. The biggest roadblock is finding examples in nice condition, as these were working guns that often lead an active if not rough life.

At this past weekend's gunshow, I found myself scanning the tables not only for the S&Ws and Marlins that hold my usual interest, but for nice examples of this family of firearms. Looks like I've developed another addiction. ::)

Roe
 
#17 ·
I love to see articles on older "not-so-glamorous" firearms,and you have sparked or resparked interest in a unique old Marlin.Thanks

There's another one I'd like to encourge you to introduce to todays MO members if you can find one.It wasn't a Marlin then but it is now,the H&R 700 simi auto 22mag.
 
#18 ·
Barenjager said:
Mudpuppy and MtnHunter...both of your 88's look to be in fine condition. Thanks to both of you for adding them to this thread.

Prior to receiving this rifle from Maudite, I was only dimly aware of its existence, never giving any I may have seen more than a passing glance. Not only did his thoughtful gift change that, but it has created a desire to explore more of the .22 autos that were popular in the past, but seemingly forgotten today. Wood stocked and blued steel contemporaries of the 88, including the Remington 550, the Springfield/Savage/Stevens auto-family such as the model 87 and model 6, the Higgins 29 and offerings from Winchester, Mossberg and others.

Many of these rifles have not attained collector status, most probably never will, but they are well made and interesting designs from a time when even the budget firearms were often of a quality we seldom see today. Most are still available at very reasonable prices, compared to the glamor guns of the same era. The biggest roadblock is finding examples in nice condition, as these were working guns that often lead an active if not rough life.

At this past weekend's gunshow, I found myself scanning the tables not only for the S&Ws and Marlins that hold my usual interest, but for nice examples of this family of firearms. Looks like I've developed another addiction. ::)

Roe
I have a Springfield 87A (same as Savage 6), and I had until recently a Remington 550-1, and have had other old semi auto's through the years. They are fascinating, and now I have a hankering for a Marlin 88. If you're not already familiar with it, check out RimFireCentral, particularly the threads by rsv1mos, a guy who has an amazing collection of old semi auto and pump .22's. He has lots of great threads with pictures of his restorations and projects. Below is a link to a sample of one of his recent 550-1 projects. Good luck with your new disease - although the good news is these old guns are very affordable....kinda nice.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331531
 
#19 ·
Thank you mudpuppy. I had never heard of a H&R model 700- but I have heard of and seen some Marlin 922M's. So I looked for a H&R and found this:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=161962954

It sure looks good- and in good shape on the outside. Neat lookng gun. And for those states that allow rimfire hunting for varmints and predators after night- with either rimfires or shotguns... its got me thinking.

I went back to the local gun emporium and asked if they could remember where they got the model 88- no luck. I had a wild idea of tracking down the previous owner and finding out if the peep was still at home. Oh well.

And it seems to me that they raised the price on their Stevens 87... could we have started a run on good vintage autoloading rimfires?
 
#20 ·
Mr. Pick said:
I have a Springfield 87A (same as Savage 6), and I had until recently a Remington 550-1, and have had other old semi auto's through the years. They are fascinating, and now I have a hankering for a Marlin 88. If you're not already familiar with it, check out RimFireCentral, particularly the threads by rsv1mos, a guy who has an amazing collection of old semi auto and pump .22's. He has lots of great threads with pictures of his restorations and projects..
Thanks for the link, Mr Pick...that gentleman has the sickness bad! A Remington 550 is already on my list, just waiting for the right gun at the right price. I just picked up one of the cousins of the Springfield 87/Savage 6...a Sears Model 25...I found at this past gunshow. I've been looking for a nice example of a "gill-gun" for awhile, and finally hit paydirt on Saturday. Very interesting actions on these type of guns. After the shot, the bolt is held open until the trigger is released. Unlike any other rimfire autoloader design I'm aware of.







This gun is in great shape, metalwork is a soild 98% and the stock has only a couple of small dings high on the right side of the butt. Even the action required very little cleaning and my impression is this gun saw little actual use. As you said Mr Pick, the affordability of these guns is a large part of the attraction. This one cost me $115, a price I thought was very reasonable considering its fine condition.

Maudite said:
I went back to the local gun emporium and asked if they could remember where they got the model 88- no luck. I had a wild idea of tracking down the previous owner and finding out if the peep was still at home. Oh well.
Thanks for the effort, Maudite. One may turn up sooner or later...until then, I mounted a old 4X Bushnell Banner on the 88 and will see what it is capable of next range trip.

Maudite said:
And it seems to me that they raised the price on their Stevens 87... could we have started a run on good vintage autoloading rimfires?
Well if we have...it's nice to be on the cutting edge of a new trend. ;)

Roe
 
#21 ·
Beautiful gun, Roe! It indeed looks like it has been used very little. Great piece of wood in the stock too. You did get a bargain.

The Sears Model 25 was made for Sears by High Standard from 1959 to 1967. It was a High Standard model A1041. You can download the parts manual and owner's manual from this site:

http://www.histandard.info/manuals/sears/rfrifles/index.html

Here's a great cross reference page for store guns to their manufacturers:

http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/catalog/cross_reference.html

Congrats on a great find, I know you'll enjoy it! And great pictures, as always!
 
#22 ·
Great reference material, Mr Pick.

A big part of the enjoyment I derive from these guns comes from exploring their design, uncovering their idiosyncrasies, and researching their history.

Thanks for the info.

Roe
 
#24 ·
I spotted one at my favorite gun store on Saturday. I wanted to find out more before I bought it.
I looked though the catalogs from 1946-56 and can narrow down the date that it was made.

1946-1950 has no white spacer and Ballard rifling
1951-1953 has a white spacer and Ballard rifling
1954-56 has a white spacer and Micro-groove
The 88 DL was in the 1952-1956 catalog.

I plan on going back for the 88-C tomorrow.Its in pretty good shape and they only want $139 for it.
 
#77 ·
I looked though the catalogs from 1946-56 and can narrow down the date that it was made.

1946-1950 has no white spacer and Ballard rifling
1951-1953 has a white spacer and Ballard rifling
1954-56 has a white spacer and Micro-groove
The 88 DL was in the 1952-1956 catalog.
Need to add to this. According to the catalogs, 1954 was the first year that they started to cut a dovetail groove for the Weaver scope mounts.

I have a 88-C that is Micro grooved but the receiver is not dovetailed for a scope.
This should then mean that I have a early 1954, pre-scope dovetail. Or a late 1953 with a early micro-grooved barrel.:hmmmm:

But since we are talking about Marlins. Anything is possible.
Dos any one have a Ballard rifled Model 88 that the receiver is dovetailed for the Weaver scope mount?
 
#26 ·
Schtoolee said:
I spotted one at my favorite gun store on Saturday. I wanted to find out more before I bought it.
I looked though the catalogs from 1946-56 and can narrow down the date that it was made.

1946-1950 has no white spacer and Ballard rifling
1951-1953 has a white spacer and Ballard rifling
1954-56 has a white spacer and Micro-groove
The 88 DL was in the 1952-1956 catalog.

I plan on going back for the 88-C tomorrow.Its in pretty good shape and they only want $139 for it.
That's some good info. Now I know I have one made between 1948 - 1950 and I just bought this one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=169622698 which I now believe was made between 1951 - 1953. I should get it later this week and check it to see if it has Ballard rifling.