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Ultimate test of Chinese Fake Leupold

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63K views 36 replies 21 participants last post by  leverdoug  
#1 ·
We have a lot of Chinese scopes coming into Sweden- and some being sold on blocket.se or tradera.se as "the real thing"..
I can understand from Leupolds homepage that this is a serious problem- and they are warning customers for fake's, and showing how to spot them..
If the Chinese wanted to- i'm sure they could make a pretty decent riflescope of their own origin- but what they get out of making these worthless fake scopes wit Leupold or Bushnell name brand on them- other than dragging their product name in the dirt- i can't understand...
Here in Sweden a Leupold MK4- long range target will cost around 2500 US $ in a shop at normal retail price- so we se a lot of scopes on the sale sites on internet as mentioned above with stories like: Brand new Leupold MK4 for sale- and a teardropping story that "is was a gift from my brother who brought it home with him from a vacation in USA" but it is too big for my rifle, so i will sell it at a quick deal for 10.000 kronor (something like 1500 US $ ) and in some cases less...
Some poor blue-eyed person takes the bait every once in a while
And the seller can't be traced afterwards: Cash card for his cellphone- hotmail adress used on a public library- parcell posted from another town- etc...
And the poor sob is standing with a piece of junk that he could have bought in China himself for 50 US $- freeight included..
To se what these scopes really go for- i ordered one on a Chinese site- and in 3 weeks i had the "thing" in my hand- without any customs or import taxes- as the scope was declared as "sporting accessories" and a declared value of 6 US $

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The scope SCREAMS "FAKE"

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The front ring was loose- so when i turned it by hand the plastic ring with the magnificationgrade "grew larger"

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The illuminated reticle is bright as the lights you se at the City of Las Vegas

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#2 ·
With great respect of the men and women who work at the Leupold factory who gives us the "real thing" i will perform this little test over a period of time...
Since the scope costs less than a tank of gas for my Triumph Bonneville (which i cant ride now anyway) i can't garantee that the scope will survive :biggrin:
First we pretend being on a hunt in early fall- it is quite warm weather, and in the afternoon a heavy warm rain is pouring down

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Back home in the cabin i change to dry clothes, get warm food and a cup of coffe- fall asleep and i forget the rifle on the front porch
Over night a cold front comes in from North with temperatures of 22 degrees centigrade below freezing point


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And this is what i se next morning


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Believe it or not- the light is still working


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#5 ·
Like the old sayin'... "if it too good to be true..." thanks for the write up though!
 
#6 ·
I think you should've sighted it in and then did these things so you could see if it'd hold its settings. Just my thoughts, though.
 
#8 ·
Alright, I wasn't trying to undermine you just posted what I thought. I wonder if it'll hold up since I've seen one or two things hold up better than their non Chinese counter parts. So far it seems pretty good if the water drops went away and the LED still works.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for posting the fake information.
How do you like the American style frozen pizza? :biggrin:
 
#14 · (Edited)
The "American style" frozen pizza is emergency food when i haven't got time to make proper dinner- quite OK though
I am very fond of Pizza hut .....
here the scope is next to "the real thing"

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Now i know why there is vercro on the inside of the rings that are normally supplied with the Chinese scopes:
The tube measure is under 30 mm- so i put tape on the tube to secure it in the rings

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"Test bed" will be a 6,5X55 Sweden Mauser with a heavy match barrel

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To se if the scope was "tracking" i shot this square and returned to the starting point without any problems

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The "start and finish"

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20 shots with altering largest/ smallest magnification

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And some "just for fun shooting"

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#20 ·
Y'know I gotta say that I wouldn't sneer at putting one of those on my rifle after you've beat crap out of it, froze it, soaked it and you can still use it to shoot repeatable groups...
I say worth the $70 and then some.
 
#28 · (Edited by Moderator)
Dansken- great job!!! Thoroughly enjoyed reading this. I'm going to have to send the link to this for some friends.



Ahh BJ, our misguided friend. Notice the part about water getting into the scope? How long before it fogs up INSIDE the scope just when you need it? If water can make it through, then water vapor surely will at some point. My guess is the light transmission is WAY below a loopy too. And I doubt if it would be as repeatable on a heavy recoiling rifle like a short mag or RCM.

As for me, I prefer a scope that survives a test like this

 
#21 ·
It might be worth 70 US$- but it is American jobs that go down the drain beacause of this Chinese stuff floating across the border...
If they made "their own" brands and called them "***********" it would be OK with me, but selling it as a Leupold i fraud in my world...
Lots of poor s.o.b.s get cheated every week here when this **** is put for sale as "the real thing" on the internet
I prefer the REAL Leupolds and European scopes any day in a week...
Aren't you guys worried about this situation at all?
 
#26 ·
Dansken,
Super report! When you had water leakage inside the scope, I thought that made them "Kaput"? Anytime I suspect a scope has gone bad for me I do the freezer test. Then when it thaws out, if there is condensation on the inside I toss it. I'm a big fan of Leupold, Bushnell, Nikon, and others also. Where I have my basic issue is I've been "taken" on
a bunch of "used" scopes. Won't buy anymore used scopes. I bought period correct scopes for some of my lever actions and was duped each time.
358 Win

PS: Love your dogs! What breed are they? I've got a 106 pound Golden Retriever named Moose and a Cairn mix at 25 pounds named Cole. The 25 pound Cole will eat Moose for lunch, but then, Golden Retrievers are not nasty. Cole might be 25 pounds but 21 pounds of it is heart and ego.

You sure killed the heck out of that pumpkin!!!!!!
 
#33 ·
Dansken,
Super report! When you had water leakage inside the scope, I thought that made them "Kaput"? Anytime I suspect a scope has gone bad for me I do the freezer test. Then when it thaws out, if there is condensation on the inside I toss it. I'm a big fan of Leupold, Bushnell, Nikon, and others also. Where I have my basic issue is I've been "taken" on
a bunch of "used" scopes. Won't buy anymore used scopes. I bought period correct scopes for some of my lever actions and was duped each time.
358 Win

PS: Love your dogs! What breed are they? I've got a 106 pound Golden Retriever named Moose and a Cairn mix at 25 pounds named Cole. The 25 pound Cole will eat Moose for lunch, but then, Golden Retrievers are not nasty. Cole might be 25 pounds but 21 pounds of it is heart and ego.

You sure killed the heck out of that pumpkin!!!!!!
Don't trash those old scopes. Usually that can be sent back to the manufacturer rebuilt and re-sealed for a fraction of the cost of a new one. I have an old Redfield wide field illuminator that I had done a few years ago. Even though Redfield was out of business. I found a guy that had bought everything from Redfield and was rebuilding the scopes. I think I paid about $50 to have the scope rebuilt.