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Rossi R95 vs Mossberg 464

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#1 ·
I stopped by my rural gunsmith’s shop the other day. He been bugging me to look at a Rossi R95 trapper, but he also had a used Mossberg 464 with a ”stainless” barrel and laminate stock. Both 30-30.

A quick internet search turns up a lot of garbage on the Mossberg. I gather it just wasn’t made well...

Back to the Rossi. I’d looked at an R95 a month or so ago. Metal looks fine. Action is smooth. Trigger not bad. Hammer forged barrel. But that ”wood” … it’s supposed to be a walnut finish on beech IIRC but to me it just looks like hammered 💩. However, Ranger Point Precision has a cure for that. That articulated stock of theirs looks really cool and functional. Plus I like the idea of a quiver of cartridges on the stock.

But what to do with the forend? I have no interest in a 4-rail “tactical” chunk of metal Up there, so what other options are there? The low cost alternative is to tape off the “checkering” and paint it black. (Yes, the wood really is that ugly.)

P.S. if I could find a used Marlin 336 with a 16-ish” barrel for under $1,000 we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
 
#3 ·
You can easily find a regular 336 and have it chopped down and you would still be well under $1,000. The last gunsmith I used to shorten two charged me $200 a piece. Little more work than just cutting and crowning a barrel because the magazine tube has to be shortened and the barrel band reworked to fit on a fatter location, but any half decent gunsmith with a lathe can do it with ease.
 
#10 ·
The Rossi R95 Trapper comes with a 16-1/2” barrel. No butchery required.

Why? Because it’s a blast to shoot. Good truck gun Or in really thick brush.

If I get the Trapper, I need to chronograph identical .30-30 hand loads out of the Trapper, my Guide Gun (20-1/2”), and my Winchester Model 64 Deer Rifle (24”). My guess is that going from 16” to 20” will make a significant difference. I doubt the extra 3-1/2“ inches will though.
 
#11 ·
Agreed about the short barrel, very handy in the field and a literal blast to shoot. Have you considered a 336Y? There are plenty of Remlins out there for under $1000 and it would be easy to swap a full size stock if desired. Or you could find a cheap pawn shop donor and have it modified for less than a grand as mentioned above. They made millions of them and it is silly to put a JM stamp on a pedestal. Life is short, do what you want.
 
#13 ·
I’d forgotten about this thread:
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The jury is still out on the optic - Primary Arms GLX 2x prism. Very forgiving eyebox, long eye relief, clear glass, and a surprisingly useful reticle. However, it sits high in the rifle. I added a cheek riser on the stock after taking this photo (and taking it out to shoot).

Although I went full retard on this build, the forward cartridge quiver gets in the way of my support hand sometimes. The RPP replacement tenon didn’t fit well in the barrel’s dovetail (tenon is too short). I do like a sling cup on the side of the forearm; however, I think I’d just go with the “paint it black” suggestion if I did it again.

OTOH that articulating stock is the bees knees! Especially with an optic.