Buy it now, cuz it won't get any cheaper! DemoncRATS will see to it!

 

AHH! had that shocker at the local cabelas. IMR powder for $515 8#

 

How is IMR 4831 $80 more than Retumbo? Retumbo has been unavailable for 4 years and was one the the higher priced powders before the price hike

 

Was at the Wichita Kansas Scheels store a couple days ago and was shocked at the price of 1 pound of Accurate 5744- $71.00 ! I left it sitting there! RB

 

Most everything has higher prices now, did you expect anything different with powder? Either you pay the price or go without if you haven't stockpiled in the past.

 

I was told it would go up 30% on January 1, so I stocked up. But I’m thinking that it went up way over 30% for sure.
Might as well face it. The days of 3-4 cent primers and $24/lb of powder are long gone…. When the last bs started I went thru the inventory and found some S&W alcan primers marked .89 cents/100. They all went off just fine. But those days are just history now. If I find ANY kind of bargain in components I go for it, without hesitation. Kinda hard not to reload/shoot without them.
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I love reloading and often reload thousands at a time, hand gun or rifle loads. I do have a huge stockpile of components but, I am hesitant to use much now because I can't replace what I use. At least I can still reload. I hate that newcomers will be out in the cold without ability to buy what they need or want. Sad. Thanks politicians!!

 

Its only just begun. just wait until the ATF / gov puts a sin tax on it.

 

This stuff may seem expensive now but I suspect prices will continue to go up even without additional taxes. There are a lot of forces in the world economy that will keep inflation rates high for a long time. "Near shoring" and "friend shoring" will have major impacts as will the aging of populations across the world. Add war breaking out in a number of places and the countries of the world arming up in major ways to the list of reasons why powder, bullets, brass and primers are going up. Unless there is serious demand destruction, I can't see them headed down in foreseeable future.

 

Attended the local gun show in Indianapolis this last weekend. My buddy and I were walking around and came upon the one dealer that has large amount of reloading supplies. Checking powder prices, IMR 4227 $519/8lbs. and Alliant 2400 $417/8lbs. Primers were $85/1k, small pistol, small rifle, and large pistol, all brands. Certain calibers of Starline brass was $71/per 50.

When I started shooting highpower competition many years ago, Dupont(IMR) 4895 was $80/8lbs. and large rifle primers were$10-11/1k. Prices are going to keep increasing to the point that we won't be able to afford to shoot.

And anyone believe that that's not the intended outcome by the left?

 

Instead of complaining about prices you better develop a plan B as this is only the beginning of sorrows. Soon you will be complaining about availability at any cost.

 

If it gets to that point I'll just stop doing any recreational shooting period.

 

My local bass pro has a 8# jug of accurate 2015 for $325. I was tempted but I’ve got a 5er of RL7 still

 

Keep an eye on Graf & Sons and see what Shooters World powders they have in stock and which ones will work for a replacement. Some of the Shooters World powders are still somewhat reasonably prices. And if the powder you want isn't in stock get on the Notify Me list and be ready to buy when its in stock.

I got a 5lb jug of Clean Shot which is the same powder as Accurate #2 for around $90 IIRC. Its best to download the data info and read about each powder then see which ones are in the burn range you are looking for. Thankfully I bought powder a lot when it was cheap so am in pretty good shape for powder and primers.

It has about reached the point where reloading is no longer a viable alternative to getting ammo. Once they kill off the reloading then they can make ammo too expensive to buy.

I am on the watch list for some of this powder. $200 for an 8 pound jug and doing some research it is in the burning range of 4895 and 3031. Two powders i really like and use a lot of. If it comes back min stock for $200 plus the fees I will buy a jug.

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I've had good luck with Shooter's World 4350 for 30-06 & 6.5 Swede. Their Tactical Rifle works very well for my .308 Win. loads. I'd love to try some of their Buffalo Rifle as a possible replacement for 5744, but it's about as rare as unicorns in my AO.

 

Several years ago—pre-covid—I snagged an 8-pound jug of Shooter’s World Heavy Pistol (AA#9 burn rate) for $163…shipped.
I am looking to buy an 8-pounder of their Buffalo Rifle, SOCOM or Blackout for my Big Bore 94 in .375 Winchester.

 

I've been shooting black powder almost exclusively since I got bit by the BPCR bug. Since 2015, I've watch the price of a pound of Goex go from $18.00 a pound to $27.00. Don't even get me started on the cost of primers. Luckily, I have a bit of a stockpile, but seeing the prices... I'm don't really want to dip into it.

For black powder, the best prices I've found is from Maine Powder House.

 

I've been shooting black powder almost exclusively since I got bit by the BPCR bug. Since 2015, I've watch the price of a pound of Goex go from $18.00 a pound to $27.00. Don't even get me started on the cost of primers. Luckily, I have a bit of a stockpile, but seeing the prices... I'm don't really want to dip into it.

For black powder, the best prices I've found is from Maine Powder House.

I love to shoot BP rifles. I have about 35 pounds of Black and a few pounds of sub powder and around 8,000 caps. I am considering buying a flint lock so I can knap my own flints and I know how to make the powder.

One of the stories I have read is that there is so much powder being used in the Ukraine and now the Jew and Hamas war. I understand when powder is out of stock or there is a shortage. But if you can buy powder and it just cost 4 times the normal price I consider that price gouging.

 

Shooting 22lr is still reasonable and a good quality air rifle can give you a lot of trigger time for not much outlay for ammo. And so far they haven't figured out how to tax or regulate air.

I have a Beeman two barrel air rifle I bought at WM for around $130 and its accurate and really powerful. I started shooting the 177 caliber barrel and at 23 yards the pellets were shooting through a 7/16" wafer board i was using for a backstop and then going almost all the way through my new wood cedar fence. I was impressed.

I switched to the 22 caliber barrel and at 40 yards it blows right through a steel bean can.

 

Oh Yes, air guns. I probably have a dozen or couple more rifles, all medium to high end springers. I got my first a Feinwerkbau 124d when I got back to the states after an overseas tour in 1974. Added one of thier 300s recoiless target guns about ten years later, it was state of the art for match shooting then. I then slowed down, or really stopped, getting my son raised and educated, and got back into them 5-6 years ago. I also probably have a dozen or better air pistols, some CO2, some single stroke pneumatic and several spring air types, my best are a couple each of the Feinwerkbau model 60 and 80. The most accurate are the IZH 46m, a Russian made single stroke pneumatic with about a two ounce trigger, easy to power up and fantastic to shoot.

I live just out of town with about a 1 3/4 acer yard, so I have a pellet trap and some swinging targets so I just step outside and shoot away. At one time I reloaded a lot, but no more, still have some large supplies of brass, bullets, primers and lead for casting, Some of the cartridges are getting rather classic, and brass is hard to find at times, so I set in a supply . Another thing it is 50 miles one way to the nearest range.

 

Seems to me the LGS had 1# cans of IMR 4227 at $50/lb last time I was in there. Nearly $515 for 8 pounds is outrageous.

A couple of months ago, I got 8# of H-380 for $290. Also got some Titegroup at $120/5#. The Titegoup has gone up since then.

 

Yep, bout crapped myself when I saw the price on 4350 at Cabelas over the weekend, $74.99 for 1 pound!

 

When I started this, it was an observation of the price trend. It is no different than what we are paying for gas, groceries, car insurance and taxes of all kinds. In over forty years of shooting and reloading I've bought enough stuff for the rest of my life. My youngest son has now taken an interest in shooting, hunting, and reloading. I've told him when I'm gone, he can choose to sell all of my stuff or keep it and he will be set.

As far as reloading components, we have more powder, bullet, and cartridge choices than when I started. Yet, when the "covid panic" set in, everything dried up. Alliant Powder was the worst, but they weren't the only one. Now, Vista Outdoors split in two and Federal, Remington Ammunition, Speer, CCI, Fiochhi, and Alliant Powder are now owned by a Czech conglomerate/billionaire. Roughly fifty percent of our ammunition/reloading supplies are owned by a foreign entity. I finally got Alliant 2400 at $359/8lbs. in January, I'm glad I did as it's gone to $417. Finally, the problem for us Marlin Owners is not just the powders, it is the availability of the brass for the older rifles. These forum pages are filled with posts of people looking for brass. The ammunition companies aren't going to make the old cartridges as they have moved on to the new cartridges, and quite frankly they don't care what you want. They want to sell you the latest 6.5 or 7mm and you will like it because the latest gun rag says so. Learn to do cartridge conversions and do the best you can. Good luck and good shooting to all of you.

 

Now, Vista Outdoors split in two and Federal, Remington Ammunition, Speer, CCI, Fiochhi, and Alliant Powder are now owned by a Czech conglomerate/billionaire. Roughly fifty percent of our ammunition/reloading supplies are owned by a foreign entity.

How the government allowed that is beyond me. Never mind powder prices for the general public...that is a national security risk. I'm a capitalist, but Federal was just running Lake City a couple of years ago for Pete's sake. How is anyone comfortable with leaving that kind of capacity and market share for defense staples in the hands of a foreign owner with unknown motives and associations? Now Winchester is all that is left as a major American-owned ammo producer. And man did the Remington/Cerberus conglomeration and eventual bankruptcy have long tentacles. Left a lot wreckage in the firearms industry.

 

I'm feeling the pain of today's prices. It's a hard pill to swallow. I'm glad I stocked up on what I could.
I miss the good ole days and we thought the bubba clinton years were bad this is worse.
In September 2020 I bought 8# jug of Shooters World Precision Rifle for $166.99. Now it's $400.00+ not to mention we could go on and on .
I guess shop around and buy what you can when you can. Buy it faster than you shoot it never pass up a good deal.
Also buy plenty of .22 LR rimfire.

 

I picked up an 8# jug of 4100 last year for about $200. Hadn't used it before, but it is in reserve now for magnum handgun loads jic. Just ordered a pound of Superformance to back up what I have in hand for $43 to use for a 243 don't shoot much lately. Coming with it is an 8# jug of Acc #5. That was $283 before the haz and shipping.
I agree about stocking up now (and back then). It is unlikely to get cheaper or more plentiful. Grab the bargains or reasonably(?!!) priced components when you can.

 

Probably has something to do with the all the "Wars" going around the globe. Two in particular.

 

Can't have much to do with Israel, IMI ammo is available in abundance.

 

About the only positive thing I can say about the powder prices is just be glad you can even buy any at all. I remember during the Civid/Biden fiasco you couldn't find any powder or primers unless you were willing to pay crazy gunbroker prices like $200+ for a thousand primers. And some people did.

 

Why do I feel like we're being punked?
V

 

Just for fun, a little powder history. My highpower shooting mentor told me this story many years ago. When Bruce Hodgdon started selling powder, my friend and his highpower buddies would chip in and buy several kegs of powder. Hodgdon shipped it via REA (Railway Express Agency), so when my friend got the notice, he would drive downtown and pick up the powder at REA, drive home and call everyone. They would all meet and divide the powder by weighing it out and putting it in paper sacks. From what I gathered, there was a little bit of beer drinking going on at the same time! They were getting bulk IMR 4831 and IMR 4895, since they were all using the same thing it worked out. My point is that in the future, find the same powder that you and your friends can use and split the cost. The beer drinking is optional.

 

They would all meet and divide the powder by weighing it out and putting it in paper sacks. From what I gathered, there was a little bit of beer drinking going on at the same time! They were getting bulk IMR 4831 and IMR 4895, since they were all using the same thing it worked out. My point is that in the future, find the same powder that you and your friends can use and split the cost. The beer drinking is optional.

I have done the same thing with some of my shooting buds. We would buy 8 pound cans of Unique, 4895, 4350 and on occasion a 25lb case of mixed BP from Powder Inc for our Muzzle Loaders. And beer is not optional. Its mandatory.