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#22 ·
I’ve never not found ammo I’m looking for at anmoseek, but I also have a local ammo store in town that has everything you can think of. I regularly see 44-40, 30-40 Krag, 38-55, yada yada. .35 Remington isn’t going anywhere and ammo won’t be any harder to find than it already is, which isn’t difficult so long as you’re willing to buy it. I bought 2 boxes at a gun show this weekend for $100, those 2 boxes will last a very long time with or without sighting in a scope.
 
#23 ·
buckeyeshooter said:
The 350 Buckhammer uses 9mm bullets of .355 diameter and probably many of them will be pointy and unsuitable for tube magazines. I just got 3 boxes of Hornady 200 grain interlock round noses so I think I am set until my dirt nap now. If not I can go back to 200 grain cast. I am shooting my Dad's 1951 waffletop and I take a deer with it every year.
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not true. It uses .358 200 grain roundnose.
 
#24 ·
"Die" is a harsh term. Handloaders should be good. I'd assume one can get a lot of turns out of brass however.
 
#25 ·
Unless Ruger makes and sells a 35 Rem a whole lot cheaper then their 336 Classic I do not see where their production will make a bit of difference in the 35 Rem survival. Even at that without a good supply of ammo I would guess most sales will be to collectors. +

As far as "dead or dying" calibers go I already load the .219 Zipper, 22 Hornet, 25-20 and 32-20. My mil-surps are a 30-40 Krag and a 50-70.
 
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apogeeammo said:
It all depends on what Marlin chambers their 336 in. If they go with the buckhammer, there won't be anymore new 35's made. As far as the cartridge dying, theres too many guns and too many people who love it for them to stop making ammo for it.
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Ruger would be crazy not to chamber for the Buckhammer. It makes zero business sense to market rifles your customers can't find ammo/components for, or to beat yourself out of sales in straight-wall states. If I was buying my first 35 lever action today, it would definitely be a Buckhammer.

What I would not do is sacrifice my old 35 Remington Texan for any new Ruger, Henry etc. It took me a long time to find one in just this configuration and it shoots great. There's no 35 Remington ammo shortage here.
 
#30 ·
The 350 Legend and 360 Buckhammer will compete with each other for the straight wall rifle cartridge state hunters, and the folks that need the latest and greatest. I don't see both of them surviving. The rest of us that have been keeping the .35 Remington alive for the last few decades will continue to do so.
 
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#32 ·
MNleverlover said:
The 350 Legend and 360 Buckhammer will compete with each other for the straight wall rifle cartridge state hunters, and the folks that need the latest and greatest. I don't see both of them surviving. The rest of us that have been keeping the .35 Remington alive for the last few decades will continue to do so.
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The .30-06 and the granddaddy of them all .45-70 have survived all the new kids, the .35 Rem won’t have much trouble either. Though I wouldn’t mind some movie coming out featuring a .35 Rem lever gun so that they’ll pump the production up just like the .45-70 with Jurassic World and Wind River
 
#33 ·
You whippersnappers missed the 'death of the .45-70', predicted in the outdoor/gun magazines of the 1950's and 60's. I read the articles, the only popular writer who stood with the old cartridge was Elmer. Marlin brought out the 1895 in 1972, it took off, and look at the .45-70 today.
You also missed the 'death of the .30-06', knocked off its throne by the .270 Win, the 7mm Rem Mag, and the .280 Rem.

I'm inclined to think the .35 Remington of 1906 will last for another 117 years and beyond. Never say never, you'll just wind up eating your words. That list in post #4 doesn't mean doodley-squat.
 
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deaddeerwalking said:
not true. It uses .358 200 grain roundnose.
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Looks like I got 2 new useless rounds mixed....Ohio's Deer Hunting Regulations allow the use of a straight-walled rifle cartridge with a minimum caliber of .357 inches (9.1 mm). The .350 Legend is only 0.355 in caliber, two thousandths of an inch too small to satisfy Ohio's Deer Hunting Regulations as codified. All .350 Legend cartridges have bullets that measure between .354 and .355 in diameter, and barrels chambered in .350 Legend have a bore that's only .355 in diameter.[11] After Winchester designed the cartridge for .355 bullets rather than using .357 or .358 bullets that would comply with Ohio's hunting regulations, they claimed in their SAAMI submission that the .350 Legend is ".357 - 0.0030" in diameter.[1] As a result, published state hunting regulations specifically indicate that .350 Legend is permitted.[12][13]

. 360 Buckhammer Specs
  • Caliber: . 358 in.
  • Parent Case: .30/30.
  • Available Loads: 180-grain and 200-grain Core-Lokt soft points.
  • Muzzle Velocity (200 grain): 2217 fps.
  • Muzzle Velocity (180 grain): 2350 fps.
  • Muzzle Energy (200 grain): 2,183 ft. -lb.
  • Muzzle Energy (180 grain): 2,299 ft. -lb.
  • Effective Range: 200 yards plus.

So, yes the 360 buckhammer will help with bullets, not that I will give up my 35 remington.
 
#36 ·
Anyone else notice the big misprint in the Field and Stream .35 Remington "death notice"? 280 grain bullet faster than the 200 grain? I wonder what else they got wrong. I am sure that they meant 180 grain but when I read an error like that , I wonder if any of the writers know all that much about their subject.
 
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Travlin said:
Anyone else notice the big misprint in the Field and Stream .35 Remington "death notice"? 280 grain bullet faster than the 200 grain? I wonder what else they got wrong. I am sure that they meant 180 grain but when I read an error like that , I wonder if any of the writers know all that much about their subject.
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I saw that too and felt the same way. Obvious mistakes like that definitely hurt any credibility the article might have had. I already don't trust much of what the gunrag writers put out---most are shills IMHO.
 
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flatnose said:
I haven't researched the 360 Buckhammer and surely won't. But, I thought the 375 Winchester was the straight wall version of the 30-30 case. Educate me.
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The Huckbammer case is 1.8 inches long so it's legal to hunt in States with that legal restriction. The .38-55 and .375 Winchester cases are too long for those States.
 
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