I'm sure someone will find a use for it but I'm hard pressed to come up with one.

 

Another what in the *%#$*%^#^*&!!!!@! is it good for questions........They state it is good for 1000 meters yet starts out with a velocity of just over 1000 ft..............Pure BS

 

It may be good at 1000 meters ..... if it is employed as a howitzer.

 

If I was going to spend 5K for a rifle it would be a 50 BMG and not a subsonic version.

 

A 50BMG single shot bolt action upper that goes onto a Std AR lower cost about 2-3 thousand dollars. You can build a 50 Beowulf upper for about 700 dollars in parts (not counting your labor).

 

Maybe another straight wall cartridge for Rhino hunting in Michigan?

 

A 600 grain bullet at 1000 fps develops 1332 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle and the bullet drop at 1000 yards is 2301 inches or about 191 ft. If it was April 1st I would call "April Fools", but it is not, so, like Happy Kaboomer I will call B.S.................they also discuss a 900 grain bullet (I guess that is for a "large dangerous game" load).....and it develops a tad over 2300 ft lbs. The author states that this rifle would be good for destroying engine blocks "quietly" utilizing sub sonic loads....which I am sure we all have a need to do...at least three or four times a day. I am sure that "someone" will just have to get one of these, but for my purposes I really see no need for such a contraption................and, I am still befuddled by the "subsonic" thing with any rifle...when I shoot, I want the heaviest bullet at the highest velocity possible, and I want lots of noise when I trip the trigger....but, thats just me!!!

 

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The author states that this rifle would be good for destroying engine blocks "quietly" utilizing sub sonic loads....which I am sure we all have a need to do...at least three or four times a day.

Only when the traffic is bad.
Most times I'd only need it once or twice a day.



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From the website:

Condition Red’s Zero Dark Fifty, a 10lb AR Firing subsonic .50 BMG bullets

CROM has a target weight of 9.5lbs and a target price of roughly $5500.00 when they bring the rifle to market. SAAMI certfication of the .500 Blackout is not complete and still in the works. Besides using existing .50bmg bullets, they’ve also experimented with a 600gr solid copper flat point producing 6000ft/lbs of energy at short range, and a 200gr aluminum HP designed to shatter on impact.

Sounds like they are doing some interesting stuff. Be interesting to see how this develops.

 

Only .50's I'd be interested in are .50bmg, .50-95 Express, and .50-110. No .50 handgun rounds, not even muzzleloaders.

I shot an AR-50 once, 3 rounds of AP at an 18" steel plate at 600 yards. Thing shot like a laser beam! And I hadn't really EVER fired a real rifle at a target on a range before. Blew my mind.r

 

Clearly this is not aimed (pun intended) at the hunting public. Bullet design tells us this. Since the rifle alone has an estimated price of $5,500 I am going to guess the cartridge costs are also bordering on the ridiculous. But I like what Vooch said concerning its use as a possible road rage tool. (Yes FBI, we are both joking).

Me, I'm building a new lower right now to dedicate to the new 350 Legend barrel I will order, when they are available. I can afford that.

 

I've got a Beowulf. Fun gun to shoot. Bought it at one of the old Black Rifle Conventions back in the mid-90s. They only manufactured uppers then, no complete rifles. We actually sat across from Bill Alexander and his chief engineer (ex H&K engineer) at dinner and we talked about their new caliber. They were trying to get a mil contract for their Beowulf. It was designed (in part) to take out engine blocks at guard posts, according to him. I went back to Alexander Arms booth the next day and picked up an Entry upper (that was the only choice then).

 

I have a 50-110 and a 50 alaskan, recoil is brisk with a 535 grain at 1800fps in an 8 pound rifle. I think a 600 grain at 6000ft ibs muzzle energy is going to hurt. My 470 Capstick shoots 600 grain bullets at 2200fps at about 6000 ft lbs and it hurts alot! Not something to go plink with or shoot prone.

 

"A 600 grain bullet at 1000 fps develops 1332 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle and the bullet drop at 1000 yards is 2301 inches or about 191 ft. If it was April 1st I would call "April Fools", but it is not, so, like Happy Kaboomer I will call B.S.................they also discuss a 900 grain bullet (I guess that is for a "large dangerous game" load).....and it develops a tad over 2300 ft lbs."



This... I have to call total BS on this one also. ballistics appear to be completely made up to me, Ive seen 2 different places discussing stats, then I see they're still trying to source a barrel manufacturer.
The math in the ballistics from their numbers do not add up at all.. just at 100yards, the drop will be something like 129 inches with 600 grains at subsonic (under 1000fps. on average) .
No matter what the grain, I just do not see how they can say that it would penetrate an engine block. at that velocity.
I would love to know their definition of "penetrate"... they talking 1/2" or clean thru... there's a lot of grey area there..