I'm a Mossberg shotgun fan but as for this rifle, no thanks.

Top thrower, lots of internal parts, harder to clean, small finger loop and big trigger loop and if I'm remembering right, the trigger comes down with the lever.

I like to support American companies but I'd be more inclined to buy a Puma or Rossi over this rifle. Then again, the only levers I own are Marlins so what do I know?

 

Buckeye, gun magazines usually make excuses for guns they profile but this one had some glaring discrepencies even gun writers didn't over look.

But still, went to check one out at a local store. The manager told me it was the second one. They sent the first one back when the extractor broke while operating the lever.

Jon

 

Don't spend too much... Think they started out at $399. Local shop discounted them to $299. The other day they were at $263

 

I bought one at the Wholesale Sports Store so I could have one to design a sight around. Upon first glance the rifle looks and feels good. Fit and function of this rifle is very good. The wood is finished well. Metal finish was normal and I havent determined what the receiver is made of (Steel yes, but is it CNC Machined from solid bar stock or investment cast then machined? (guessing the latter)

We have mounted our LoPro sight on this rifle with great success. I built a windage adjustable rear (see Pic @ ww) for the 464 also and will have it in production soon.

While test firing for POI (which turns out the factory sights are really tall so both of our rear sights worked with the factory front sight) the groups were good and trigger pull was clean and crisp.

I'm a Marlin Fan but this rifle has some great potential . I wonder if we can get Mossberg to bring it out in some "cool" calibers??? If I could buy one for under $300 I'd be picking up another one !

Andy

 

I dont own one but from my research this seem to often be the case: ppl who have actually owned this rifle likes it a lot, people who have only seen it or heard about it presume it is junk for some reason.

 

.338 marlin in a straight grip, full magazine, 20" barrel might shake the moth's out of my wallet

 

.338 marlin in a straight grip, full magazine, 20" barrel might shake the moth's out of my wallet

yes please, however I am willing to look at one in 22" barrle as well, either will be fine.

As anyone well one of these rifles apart, yet? How do the inside compare to a Winchester 94? I have hear that are prone to failure compared to the Winchester design.

 

I haven't torn mine down yet, but from looking into the receiver from various places, the innards look just about identical to the Winchester design except for the bolt group (round bolt, clip-on extractor, and plunger ejector). It uses pins instead of the hammer screw, carrier screw, and link screw but they're in the same places and it appears that it takes down the same. I has the same type of lever, floorplate link, carrier, feed rails, and locking bolt (though the locking bolt doesn't have the "ears" on the sides at the back like the Winchester). I can't say much about the hammer and trigger mechanism because I can't see in there but it operates just like a Winchester with the rebounding hammer. The safety is definitely different, but it is a fairly simple hammer-block type.

Admittedly I haven't put a bunch of rounds through mine yet, but I don't see why it would be more prone to failure since its basically the exact same design as a Winchester with the exception of the bolt group. They did have some problems early on with the extractors breaking but they seem to have fixed that - I have cycled hundreds of rounds through mine with no problems whatsoever.

One of these days I'll get around to tearing it down completely and then I'll be able to say for sure (or as best I recollect, its been a while since I was into a Winchester) but as far as I can see the 464 is pretty darn close to a direct copy of the Winny except with a Marlin bolt. Now if they'd just make one in a .357 Magnum... ;D

 

I haven't torn mine down yet, but from looking into the receiver from various places, the innards look just about identical to the Winchester design except for the bolt group (round bolt, clip-on extractor, and plunger ejector). It uses pins instead of the hammer screw, carrier screw, and link screw but they're in the same places and it appears that it takes down the same. I has the same type of lever, floorplate link, carrier, feed rails, and locking bolt (though the locking bolt doesn't have the "ears" on the sides at the back like the Winchester). I can't say much about the hammer and trigger mechanism because I can't see in there but it operates just like a Winchester with the rebounding hammer. The safety is definitely different, but it is a fairly simple hammer-block type.

Admittedly I haven't put a bunch of rounds through mine yet, but I don't see why it would be more prone to failure since its basically the exact same design as a Winchester with the exception of the bolt group. They did have some problems early on with the extractors breaking but they seem to have fixed that - I have cycled hundreds of rounds through mine with no problems whatsoever.

One of these days I'll get around to tearing it down completely and then I'll be able to say for sure (or as best I recollect, its been a while since I was into a Winchester) but as far as I can see the 464 is pretty darn close to a direct copy of the Winny except with a Marlin bolt. Now if they'd just make one in a .357 Magnum... ;D

Thank you, that was told to be by a gentleman behind the counter at one of my favorite gun stores, his suggestion was get a Marlin that was included over a Winchester 1895 that was $200 higher than a Marlin 338MX. Who is also a gunsmith.

 

Just found this one on GB. It's the Davidsons Exclusive Stainless/Laminated 16" Brush Gun. Nice lookin little shorty.
Mossberg 30-30 Lever Brush Gun Marinecote NIB 16"! : Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com

 

T-Roy, I picked mine up on Friday and now have to get it cleaned up and ready to shoot. Mine is the same one you mentioned above. On first notice I can actually (for me) see and could use the sights. The front sight could be a problem though as it is exposed enough that you could easily knock it off, the HI Viz part that is. The action is tight but real smooth from just the preliminary check over of the rifle. The safety is easy to operate for me as a lefty, and does it's job I suppose, but like many on the forum I don't like it being on the rifle. My rifle weighs about 6 5/8 lbs. Thats a little more than the advertized 6lbs, but I'll put 1-3 Weaver I have or a 1-4 Leupy on it, to keep it light and handy. I'll post more on this rifle when I get to shoot it. Planning on trying Sierra 150's and 170's plus the Hornady 160 gummy tips

 

..... I picked one up online last year for $362 + 37.50 for the FFL transfer at a local Gun Shop - free shipping also . I saved $100 + tax on that same gun If I had bought it local . Don't know around these parts if the prices have gone down any but I KNOW I got a great deal on that gun . It was the straight stock -birch wood -I just wanted a woods beater and I'm very happy with it and I also harvested a decent buck with it already so to me it's pretty much paid for ! Haha !:biggrin:

 

Mosberg 464

Recently picked up a Davidson's "Brush Gun" Mossberg 464. I added a Williams Fire Sight peep to the rear dovetail, and I mounted a Leupold 1x4 Heavy Duplex in Weaver Grand Slam rings secured to Warne mounts. It seems to be a very well built gun at any price point; for the money, I'd say it’s a great value. The action is very smooth and the fit and finish inside and out are very nice. With its silver finish and laminate stock the gun looks great, very distinctive. So far, I'm pleased with its functionality and accuracy. The walnut, pistol gripped models I’ve looked at were also very nicely done. If Mossberg ever chambers the 464 in 356, 307, or 35 rem, I'll certainly find some room for them, too.

If it needs to have a safety, I'd much rather have it where it is on the tang, like the over and unders I use for wingshooting, than way out on the side of the receiver. I would like it better if it totally locked the hammer down instead of letting it go most of the way without firing, but it is still in a great place for silently and unnoticeably getting quick shots off at game. I didn't pull on it yet with my gauge, but the trigger is a touch stiff for my taste; it is nice and crisp, and it is certainly inline with other levers. I don't see it negatively affecting accuracy. When I take the gun apart for a thorough cleaning and going over, I will likely see if stoning a few parts helps.

About the only thing I'm not a fan of on the 464 is a trigger blocking device that only goes off when the lever is pulled tight to the stock. Just having the lever fully closed is not enough; the shooter needs to consciously pull the lever approximately 3/8" closer to the stock to depress the spring loaded trigger block. Perhaps it’s just the way in which I hold a lever, but holding/pulling on the lever enough to take the trigger block off feels exceedingly unwieldly to me. (To give a little perspective, I own a few BLRs, a few Marlins, and a Savage 99. I'm not too biased towards one lever design or the other, but I do usually grab one of the BLRs when I go hunting.) It is something that I could definitely see delaying and or preventing a quick shot, which is the kind of shots I carry a light, short, lever action 30-30 for in the first place. I guess it is short jacking protection? Or, perhaps the 464 design is prone to not having the lever/action fully closed? Either way, if and when I get serious about actually taking this gun hunting, I will consider either removing the small piece that blocks the trigger, or modifying it so that it no longer blocks the trigger.