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Hi folks. I am a new Marlin owner and new to this site. I recently acquired a mod. 336/35 cal. in a trade and I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer. I've read in a couple of forums (not MarlinOwners.com) that it is possible to shoot a S&W .357 Mag pistol round in the 35 cal. Can anyone verify or discredit this?

Second. I've decided on a scope and mounting system and would like to save myself a few bucks in ammo expense and go the laser boresighting route. I've read many of the threads on the subject on this site but I haven't seen one that answers my specific question. It seems to me that a cartridge type laser sighter would be the most accurate of the different styles of boresighting (the laser beam is shooting straight down the bore of the barrell). My problem is that I can't find a cartridge laser sighter in .35 cal. My question is, if a S&W 357 Mag pistol round will fit the chamber, would a 357 Mag. cartridge laser work as a 35 cal. would?

Third. I have not shot this rifle yet but judging by the size of the round, it looks like it might kick like a mule. Can someone rate the kick on a 1 to 10 scale for me? I'm trying to decide if I should add a LimbSaver recoil pad to the butt?

I realize that probably few, if any, of you has substituted a 357 Mag for the 35 cal. boresighter for the purpose of sighting in a scope but I'm hopeing that perhaps a few of you Marlin experts and/or gunsmiths can shed some light on the subject.
Thanks in advance.
 
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I would not attempt to fire a 357mag in a 35Remington rifle. IF it would fire, the larger chamber would allow a rapid expansion of the case, with likely disastrous results. Not a good thing. Your decision....

Two shot sight in procedure. Lock your rifle in sandbags, a shooting vise, or whatever to keep it in place. Put up a 'big' piece of paper or large cardboard from a big box - I like about a 4ft square. Put an X or a 'real' target in the middle to aim at. After firing the first shot, move the crosshairs to the bullet hole via the adjustment knobs. The second shot should be very near your point of aim. Fine tune as necessary. I do this at close range, less than 25 yards, then verify at longer ranges like 100 or 200 yards, or wherever I am likely to be using it. Hope this works for you. Always does for me.

Jeff
NRA Life
 
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hello sea bee, i would rate the kick around a 4, 10 being severe. case dia. would be dangerously different. you can get a bore sighter that will fit from 50 cal. to a 22 priced very reasonable, it will pay for itself. however, some people will load a 357 dia. bullie in a 35 case and claim its great for small game and targets. b safe n have fun
 
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If you have any experience with other rifles this chart may give you an idea of the recoil relative to other rifles/calibers.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

A Marlin 336 in .35 Rem is one of the milder recoiling centerfire rifle caliber combinations. Particularly in relationship to it's knock down power on deer sized game.

NEVER fire a loaded cartridge that isn't intended for that specific firearm. The barrel will be marked for the correct cartridge.

Handloaders sometimes use bullets intended for .357 mag in a .35 Rem case to achieve a certain result.

Enjoy that Texan. My wife has a Texan in .35 Rem too and she loves it.
 
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Move here from the wrong forum, that is for Administrators.
Never fire any cartridge in a firearm that isn't designed for that firearm, to do so is not only a very bad idea, you could be appearing on the late news as a reminder to all the antis just how dumb we are and how smart they are to dis-arm the United States!
As to bore sighting, you don't need the newest whizzbang sighter after all they are already in your noggin. Both suggestions above are good, I usually take a shot at 25 yds and go from there, using a target with 1" squares helps as you count how far out you are and make your adjustments, most scopes are 1 click= 1/4" at a hundred yds, at 25 yds that's 16 clicks to an inch. Mr fixit
 
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I believe the confusion on the .357 mag round is that some folks reload their .35 rem brass and use a pistol bullet. ***The projectile only, not the entire round or cartridge**** This can be done and loaded down to make a really pleasant practice and plinking round.
As far as the kick of a .35 Rem, I don't find any noticeable difference from my 30-30 with 170 grain rounds.
 
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Ok, it looks like I failed to be clear about my intentions in my original post (not unusual for me, I can get ahead of myself):hmmmm:. Thanks to those that have warned me about shooting the wrong caliber round in a gun. I couldn't agree with you more. But, my only intentions are to find a cartridge style laser boresighter that will fit the chamber. As stated, I can't find a cartridge size boresighter in .35 cal. So I'm looking for an alternative (size) that will fit the chamber or at least be very, very close.

Thanks to all of you that have given me tips on sighting in without a laser. If I can't easily (and cheaply) find a bore sighter, I will go that route. While I am an experienced shooter (ex-police officer, Viet Nam era veteran), my experience with rifles is limited basically to the M1 Garand, M14 and M16 and a .22 for plinking, I am more proficient with handguns.

Thanks again
 
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There are several inexpensive boresighters on the market that insert into the muzzle end and have adapters for all common calibers. I am not a fan of the cartridge type.
 
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Welcome to you Seabee 69 and congratulations on your rifle. Great cartridge/rifle! I've never used a bore sighter - usually just start out with a large enough target to find the POI and work from there.

Take a look at the targets I posted at http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/boolit-casting/107688-stolen-range-time-45colt-35rem-pics.html and see what it will do. Keep in mind those are with my first cast bullets for that rifle and just starting the path for looking for loads - even then, most loads produced satisfactory results. I get about the same with jacketed LE bullets.
 
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Welcome from northern NY. You've already been given great advise on your questions and concerns. The 35 Rem kicks less than the M1 Garand. I think it is most comparable to the recoil of the 30-30.
 
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Recoil is WAY less than a 45-70 guide gun to me. I like the 35 and would buy another one. Gotta reload anyway so not much more cost. Supposedly the same trajectory as the 30-30, just with a heavier bullet. What's not to like. Never heard anything bad about it. Heard it's a little difficult to find Rem core-lokts 200gr, but it's a great cast bullet shooter. Sorta 'just right' for me. JMHO...
 
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Welcome to MO from Michigan's cold UP and a former SeaBee.

I can't even find snap caps for my 35.

I have used both methods explained above and they both work well.

The recoil is a little more than a 30-30 but much less than a 30-06 or a 7mm 08.
 
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Mr fixit's advice is sound.
There is no need for a boresight of any kind. Once the scope is mounted, begin shooting at 25 yards and adjust your scope to get close to the bullseye, then go to 50 yards and adjust, then go to whatever range you want to zero your scope at. I've never used a boresight and starting at 25 yards has always worked for me. Remember to check the windage and elevation adjustments for your scope; some are 1 click = .50 inch at 100 yards, - however, most are 1 click = .25 inch at 100 yards, which equates to 2 clicks = .25 inch at 50 yards

Hope this helps