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Biden Admin Shoots Down $24 Billion Pay Raise For Enlisted Troops — After Spending Seven Times More On Ukraine 🤬

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Biden Admin Shoots Down $24 Billion Pay Raise For Enlisted TroopsAfter Spending Seven Times More On Ukraine source

The Biden administration “strongly opposes” a proposal to raise the pay of junior enlisted service members in the military — even after nearly spending seven times the proposed amount on Ukraine and the broader region’s security.

The House Armed Services Committee’s (HASC) draft of the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) would give all junior troops a pay raise, representing a rough total of $24.4 billion over five years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The Biden administration said in a statement on Tuesday that it does not support the proposed “significant, permanent” pay hike until it has had a chance to conduct a compensation review.

“The Administration is strongly committed to taking care of our Service members and their families, and appreciates the Committee’s concern for the needs of the most junior enlisted members, but strongly opposes making a significant, permanent change to the basic pay schedule before the completion of the Fourteenth Quadrennial Review of Military Compensation,” the White House budget office said.

(Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)

US President Joe Biden boards Marine One at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland on June 11, 2024, as he travels to Wilmington, Delaware. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo by SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)

The Biden administration has spent over $175 billion on aid to Ukraine and European security since 2022 — roughly one-seventh of the proposed pay hike for the junior troops, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. The $175 billion amount is broken into several packages over the course of two years, including the most recent aid package of $61 billion in April.

“When accounting for inflation, the average American makes less today than when Joe Biden took office. The White House wants to block Republicans from giving our troops the raise they need to make ends meet in the Biden economy,” Republican Indiana Rep. Jim Banks, a HASC member, told the Daily Caller News Foundation. “Meanwhile, they’ve sent the Ukrainian government $11,500 per Ukrainian household. It’s shameful.”

Bipartisan members of the HASC promoted the pay increase for junior troops as a way to improve recruiting and retention, a problem that the military has increasingly struggled with. A year-long study conducted by the HASC and published in April found that “servicemembers, especially junior enlisted servicemembers and servicemembers supporting large families, struggle to afford housing and feed their families.”



The pay level for junior troops has failed to remain competitive with the civilian job market, especially with rising inflation, the study found. Junior troops received smaller pay raises than senior servicemembers — or no raise at all — in eight of the last 40 years.

“Joe Biden must hate our military,” Republican Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, also on the committee, told the DCNF. “While families of our junior enlisted struggle on food stamps, this administration opposes their pay raises and wants to force-feed them pronoun training and drag queen story hour. If Biden had any PRIDE at all in our troops, he’d support the long overdue pay raise House Republicans have passed.”

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 
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It doesn't surprise me at all. After all the US is the Sugar Daddy for the rest of the world. We can't afford to build a border fence to protect the county but we can give billions to the Ukraine and Israel to protect their countries.

With just a small portion of what the US has gave away we could have built a border fence double row with cameras and motion detectors every hundred feet. And had money left over to start rebuilding our worn out bridges and other infrastructure.

Our home is ran by fools.
 
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Up to this point not including new aid the U.S. has given the Ukraine 113.4 Billion dollars yet the Dems grumbled about funding the border wall which at the time had a price tag of 3 Billion. A drop in the bucket to better secure the border compared to all the waste and spending the Dems gave to foreign countries and other wasteful causes. Some of those foreign countries we give Billions to publicly say that they hate the U.S.---so if they hate us so much don't take our money.
 
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This week, Biden signed off on $400 million for Hamas controlled Gaza under the guise of Humanitarian Aide.

40 million annually for Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Biden the Enemy of this Constitutional Republic out-right refuses to secure the U.S. Borders from Invasion and authorize a mini-pay raise for our U.S. Military Personnel. ....:mad:!


Old Creek
U.S.M.C. (Ret.)
 
#7 ·
I was just listening on the radio and there were discussing whether shotgun joe was going to pardon or commute his lying criminal son before he leaves office. Funny, as soon as I heard hunter was convicted on all charges I said to myself. "super dad will give him a pardon". Looks like I was right. I wonder if he will pardon Mr Trump?
 
#13 ·
From what I have read Soros is preparing to turn over the reins to his son who will perpetuate his agenda. Old man Soros has been grooming his kid to be Soros Gen 2 for many years.
 
#16 ·
I'm in no position to comment on American politics (so I will keep my opinions to myself), but In my view Putin must not be allowed to succeed in the Ukraine.

He has already shown that he is prepared to expand Russia's sphere of influence by gobbling up his neighbors. (for example Crimea - which the free world largely chose to ignore). Sure, the US is giving huge aid to the Ukraine, both in cash and the supply of military systems. I am sure that the Ukrainians appreciate this. Without the US's help Putin owns the Ukraine! The US may be giving disproportionately more to the Ukraine than any other country, however other NATO countries like France, Germany and Poland, and the EU, are also making large contributions. I agree that some NATO countries are not pulling their weight. I am proud to say however that Australia (with a population of less than 30 million people), has made the largest contribution of military aid to the Ukraine of any non-NATO country.
 
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I'm in no position to comment on American politics (so I will keep my opinions to myself), but In my view Putin must not be allowed to succeed in the Ukraine.

He has already shown that he is prepared to expand Russia's sphere of influence by gobbling up his neighbors. (for example Crimea - which the free world largely chose to ignore). Sure, the US is giving huge aid to the Ukraine, both in cash and the supply of military systems. I am sure that the Ukrainians appreciate this. Without the US's help Putin owns the Ukraine! The US may be giving disproportionately more to the Ukraine than any other country, however other NATO countries like France, Germany and Poland, and the EU, are also making large contributions. I agree that some NATO countries are not pulling their weight. I am proud to say however that Australia (with a population of less than 30 million people), has made the largest contribution of military aid to the Ukraine of any non-NATO country.
And, under who's watch was this take over of Crimea by Russia permitted to happen. Obummer, the 44th POTUS. Coincidence, I would think NOT. Just a placeholder in office that did not want to rock the boat. Just like typical politicians, no gonads, just ride the gravy train and don't stick your nose in other peoples business. An empty chair!

🪑
 
#17 ·
Don't get me started. Things stopped making sense a long time ago in the military when it came to pay and benefits. Bases closed during BRAC, formerly government owned houses suddenly transferred to private company management, or closed all together. This lead to a lack of on base housing families. Closing DFACs on bases forcing junior enlisted members out on the economy or turning them over to private management who then boosted the prices and/or dropped the quality of food at the same time.

At DHS Headquarters they contracted out food services to a private company. A salad, bag of chips and a standard bottle of soda was $20. I used to ask how we could expect a junior enlisted member to be able to afford to eat lunch on base every day. As a result many were brown baggers.

26 years ago when I entered the Coast Guard, every major Coast Guard Base had a galley on it. Now only Base Seattle, Base LA/LB, and our three Training Centers has operational galleys. When I came in all the bases had a CPO club, Enlisted Club and an Officer's Club that were open from Lunch until taps. My last year all were either closed or turned into restaurants that were only open during lunch and closed the rest of the time... The worst decision was closing the Enlisted Clubs which forced youngsters out onto the town to drink... and DUIs spiked... but we have to fight the optic of the drunken sailor the brass said. I didn't understand the decision. Would you rather have them drunk on base where we can look after them, get them help when they needed it or out on the town and on the police blotters?

The worst decision that I saw was when they went from the High 3 retirement system (50% at 20 years) to a blended retirement system. Now new members can contribute a portion of their pay to Thrift Savings Plan and the service will match that up to a certain percentage. Now they get 40% of their high three at 20 years. The rest of the money is dependent on how the stock market does (which value is already artificially high due to rampant inflation). They can't access that money until they reach federal retirement age. Supporters of this moronic plan claimed that this meant that personnel who decide to not make the service a career left with some retirement savings. Well, under the old plan we could still make contributions to Thrift Savings Plan, they just wouldn't be matched. With the way that inflation is going, I doubt market gains will keep up with the rate of inflation for group 401ks. Military base pay will get a bump every year so I'm not sure if the loss of 10% at retirement is a good trade. If it was really about taking care of our people, shouldn't our focus be on rewarding those who decided to make it a 20+ year career and showed devotion to the service?

So, no... I'm not surprised that the Biden Administration balked at the junior enlisted pay bump. They don't care about service members or veterans. If they did they wouldn't have sent VA resources to the southern border to help the migrant influx and make veterans wait for months to get an appointment.

I heard a quote a while back, I don't remember from who. It went something like: "I really wish people would stop thanking active duty members and veterans for their service... and instead focus on actually taking care of them."

Just my $0.02.

-Wash
 
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Don't get me started. Things stopped making sense a long time ago in the military when it came to pay and benefits. Bases closed during BRAC, formerly government owned houses suddenly transferred to private company management, or closed all together. This lead to a lack of on base housing families. Closing DFACs on bases forcing junior enlisted members out on the economy or turning them over to private management who then boosted the prices and/or dropped the quality of food at the same time.

At DHS Headquarters they contracted out food services to a private company. A salad, bag of chips and a standard bottle of soda was $20. I used to ask how we could expect a junior enlisted member to be able to afford to eat lunch on base every day. As a result many were brown baggers.

26 years ago when I entered the Coast Guard, every major Coast Guard Base had a galley on it. Now only Base Seattle, Base LA/LB, and our three Training Centers has operational galleys. When I came in all the bases had a CPO club, Enlisted Club and an Officer's Club that were open from Lunch until taps. My last year all were either closed or turned into restaurants that were only open during lunch and closed the rest of the time... The worst decision was closing the Enlisted Clubs which forced youngsters out onto the town to drink... and DUIs spiked... but we have to fight the optic of the drunken sailor the brass said. I didn't understand the decision. Would you rather have them drunk on base where we can look after them, get them help when they needed it or out on the town and on the police blotters?

The worst decision that I saw was when they went from the High 3 retirement system (50% at 20 years) to a blended retirement system. Now new members can contribute a portion of their pay to Thrift Savings Plan and the service will match that up to a certain percentage. Now they get 40% of their high three at 20 years. The rest of the money is dependent on how the stock market does (which value is already artificially high due to rampant inflation). They can't access that money until they reach federal retirement age. Supporters of this moronic plan claimed that this meant that personnel who decide to not make the service a career left with some retirement savings. Well, under the old plan we could still make contributions to Thrift Savings Plan, they just wouldn't be matched. With the way that inflation is going, I doubt market gains will keep up with the rate of inflation for group 401ks. Military base pay will get a bump every year so I'm not sure if the loss of 10% at retirement is a good trade. If it was really about taking care of our people, shouldn't our focus be on rewarding those who decided to make it a 20+ year career and showed devotion to the service?

So, no... I'm not surprised that the Biden Administration balked at the junior enlisted pay bump. They don't care about service members or veterans. If they did they wouldn't have sent VA resources to the southern border to help the migrant influx and make veterans wait for months to get an appointment.

I heard a quote a while back, I don't remember from who. It went something like: "I really wish people would stop thanking active duty members and veterans for their service... and instead focus on actually taking care of them."

Just my $0.02.

-Wash
It's been over 55 years since I enlisted in Marine Corps, back during those years once I returned to the states, I was assigned to work as a 581

Fast forward to 2010... I made a visit to MCB, Camp LeJuene to watch a graduation and visited my old MP HQ, building 37. I was shocked to learn that Marines no longer served as MP's on the base, with the exception of a few high ranking officers that acted as a liaison, between the CIVILIANS that replaced the Marines that formerly worked as MP's. All of the MP's were CIVILIANS, which included many WOMAN. I stopped one of the Marine officers assigned to MP unit, explained that I previously worked there and asked what happened. In a nutshell, he said this was the "new Marine Corps". WOW! What a shocker! How come regular Marines cannot police their OWN? In my eyes this was and still is to this day disgusting, to say the least. 🤬

Does the Marines still have a 5811 or 5821 MOS, or did they convert that entire function over to civilians, if any knows?
 
#23 ·
Any use of public Tax funds for whatever reason should have full accountability as to where that money went and what it was actually used for. If that is not made public then the number 1 rule of preventing corruption has been violated. The 2nd rule is that the functional role of the one who allocates the money should not be the same entity that has the authority to spend the money.
 
#27 ·
Junior troops received smaller pay raises than senior service members
I agree service members need more pay to compete with the cost of living but the above statement is misleading. Pay raises for military are the same percentages across the board for everyone. Yes a E9 pay raise will be a lot more than a E2 but the E9 makes more in monthly pay. You make more as you advance in rank.
 
#28 ·
Well they may hate us but they love our money. And can you blame them for taking it. I can't. But what ever gave politicians the right to tax the hell out of me and them give my money to a foreign country? Shouldn't we be allowed to vote on it or something first?

I wonder how much my income tax could be lowered or when I was working and paying thousands of dollars a year in taxes how much could my taxes have been reduced if they weren't giving away the farm?
I agree with you, but your taxes wouldn't be lowered at all. Perhaps we would have less debt. But they wouldn't lower your taxes.

Luis
 
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Now you will see the Rino's reveal themselves----make sure you remember who they are !
 
#35 ·
Not surprised at all from this admin. They want min. wages to be $20/hr., they buy votes, they clear college debt. Nothing but criminal. They have so weakened our country, sold off OUR oil reserves bought and paid for with OUR tax $$, to CCP no less. Let in millions of “newcomer voters” by their own admission, treasonous. Sick of Barry’s third term, thought surviving him once was tuff enough.
 
#36 ·
Biden is just doing what he is told by his owners. Look to the Soros family for the real control. There's a reason that George Soros's son makes almost weekly visits to the White House.
From what I have read Soros is preparing to turn over the reins to his son who will perpetuate his agenda. Old man Soros has been grooming his kid to be Soros Gen 2 for many years.
Let's not kid ourselves. If we look hard and precisely target important major political actions and their source, they all point to one person, obummer, the person that spent two terms in office as POTUS and weaponized alphabet agencies for political purposes, infiltrated the high ranks of the armed forces with full tilt WOKENESS, and laid the groundwork for a Communist Takeover of America.

Here are two recent strong indications of what would lead a common sense thinking person to believe this to be true:
The Soros family is the money man financing these radical goals. They are using the Soros Kid as a safe vehicle to transmit messages to the Big Guy and his advisers and not cast a shadow of suspicion over these transmittals.
 
#39 ·
For those who bother to inform themselves by reading other than BS and knee-jerk reaction, here is what is actually going on:
Junior Enlisted Basic Pay Increase. The Administration is strongly committed to taking care of our Servicemembers and their families, and appreciates the Committee’s concern for the needs of the most junior enlisted members, but strongly opposes making a significant, permanent change to the basic pay schedule before the completion of the Fourteenth Quadrennial Review of Military Compensation (QRMC). In January, Servicemembers received a 5.2 percent basic pay increase, the largest since 2003, coupled with an average 5.4 percent increase in basic allowance for housing and a 1.7 percent increase in basic allowance for subsistence. The President's FY 2025 Budget Request includes a basic pay raise of 4.5 percent.

As Vietnam veteran who spent 8+ years on active duty ('67-75), it is my opinion that enlisted members deserve better pay. But we need to deal with facts and not BS.
 
#40 ·
In Switzerland, Harris gave another $1.5 Billion for the Biden/Zelenski Ukraine Grifter Org. this week. I don't recall any Congressional Approval/s to do any of this.
IMO, It's well past time, that Biden and his lawless, reckless spending, heavy taxing ANTI-USA, ANTI-U.S. Citizen Administration get that Govt. check book taken away from them. As It's their job, according to the U.S. Constitution and their sworn to Oath of Office: which includes enforcing All the laws of the U.S.A. not just being selective, ignore some or usurping the laws that don't fit their agendas. That means, BY LAW protecting our U.S. Sovereignty and U.S. Borders and stopping the Illegal Alien Invasion, not just show the Invaders where the welcome mat is located and do nothing to stop this Invasion!

Old Creek :mad:
U.S.M.C. (Ret.)