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A semi auto rifle, what's the best option?

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#1 ·
What are some good options for a semi auto rifle in a hunter caliber? I've seen some negativity on the BARs, but they sure are pretty. What about the Remington 742s and 7400s? Or do, dare I say, go the AR10 rout? Rugers? SA M1A1? I Had a Garand briefly and it was fun to shoot but also weighed about 1200lbs. I clearly need assistance and am hilariously indecisive. Thanks all who may comment!

I do have a Winchester Model 63 that is a blast to shoot and accurate as can be.
 
#2 ·
I’m not a fan of the REM 742/7400s but a lot of guys here like them. My experience has been their accuracy is not so good. I’m sure I’ll be roasted for that but i don’t call 6 inches at 100yds accurate ant I was hoping the gun would shoot good because I liked it.
Honestly in this modern day climate, and as bad as I hate to say this- I would look into an AR in a hunting caliber you like. I know you can get 308, 243, 6.5creed and others. Should be lite enough for you and reliable/accurate.
 
#3 ·
I have one of the “dreaded” Remington semi-autos in 308. It’s not bad for what it’s intended for. But, I would take a 760/7600 pump any day. There’s a reason I have several of those. But, if you’re specifically looking for semi auto, an AR-10 is probably your best bet for price and customization options. I have a Bushmaster with the Nikon P-308 scope and it shoots lights out with handloads.

But, if I’m not toting a Marlin in the hunting woods, and I’m not staring out over a few hundred yards, a Remington pump is my second choice.
 
#4 ·
I'm a bolt action wood and steel guy for hunting rifles, but for an accurate semi-auto in 243, 260 Remington, 308, etc., an AR10 will probably give you the best accuracy out of the box. I used the SR25 (AR10 in 7.62X51) in the army and thought that it was the cat's meow for long range shooting. It was better than our previous M21 rifles.

In addition to the accuracy of a good quality AR10, you'll have a lot of options for various sights from aperture sights to scopes to night vision scopes. Depending on your barrel choice, you can build a carbine or a rifle length unit and you can go with a light weight barrel of a heavy bull barrel. They are the rifle version of the 1911 pistol as far as options go.

My son's AR10 in 6.5 Creedmoor will hold 3/4 MOA all day long.
 
#5 ·
The POFs in AR-10s are relatively lightweight and well made. I had a BAR in 270 that was nothing but trouble. A hunting partner had a BAR in 308 that was just slightly more reliable than mine. Mine had to go back to the factory, to cure jamming issues…
 
#6 ·
I had a 7400 in 30-06 I bought new in the 80's and put a redfield 3-9 on it that was decently accurate. It would usually shoot around 1"-1.5" but for some reason would put the 120gr remington sp into half of that. Buddy bought a 7600 in 30-06 around the same time and he liked it. The 30-06 742 his dad had was picky about being clean. I have several lr-308 rifles that are hard to keep under 9# and are bulky as is my M1a but I've hunted with them. The 308-ar's are fairly easy to get them to shoot well with good ammo. If I didn't already have the lr308's I'd look at the compact POF 308 rifles. I have shot a BAR in 30-06 and one in 270. I liked the feel of them better than the 7400 I had but both owners complained about them failing to cycle occasionally.
 
#7 ·
I'm not a BAR fan.......unless you're talking 1918!! (They weigh 19 or 18 pounds!) Remington autos are hit and miss on accuracy in my experience. If I wanted an auto loader, it'd be an AR or the M1A1, both heavy. Both are proven actions.
I can't deal with lugging around a heavy gun any longer. Sold my 444T because of weight, fine shooter, but heavy. Plus I prefer the manual operation of a bolt, lever or pump gun. Seen too many temperamental auto loaders, save the AR-15 which functions flawlessly.
 
#8 · (Edited)
The new Ruger SFAR in 308 is a major improvement in semi-auto rifles. The 16" barrel model weighs less than 7lbs dry and accepts sights or optics of your choice. It's extremely accurate and has plenty of power for larger game like elk and uses any AR10 mag, although it's the same size as an AR15. Plus, the price is less than $1,200 usually. I have 10rd mags for hunting and they help with the profile of the rifle. Also has a 2 stage target trigger for accuracy. Very nice offering from Ruger.

 
#9 ·
My first rifle was a Rem. 742 30-06 for deer hunting. I didn't buy it for target shooting but it was a deer deerslayer. I sold it in 1973 to buy a 1972 Marlin 444s and I still have the 444s. About 10 +- years ago Walmart had a sale on Rem. 7400 at $425. for the synthetic black stock and matte metal finish, I bought it in a carbine 30-06 and its a decent shooter @ 100 yds. with my hand loads of Rem. .308" 180 gr. SP. - H 4895 -42 gr. WLR. primer. I call this Rem. 7400 my Black carbine.

I also have a Rem. pump 760 - 35Rem. Rifle wood & blue which I like and use it more often and it's a shooter.
TO NY🗽
PS.
I plan on doing some reduce loads on the 30-06 this spring - summer and will load Speer FN. 150 gr. H-4895 @ 42 gr. - L.R.P. MV 2400 fps. This load is out of the Speer # 12 manual and states it duplicates the 30-30. Will test this load in the Rem. 7400 and the Browning Win. 1895 30-06 out to 100 yds.
 
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The BAR might be heavy but it is an accurate deer killing machine. My uncle used them exclusively for deer, elk, bear hunting. He had them 338 win mag, 7mm rem mag, 30-06, and .270 win. This past summer only one remained and he handed me this Belgian made 30-06 to keep in the family. Requirements are that I hunt with once per year, don’t change anything on it (redfield widefield scope, sling) and hand it down to my boy when he’s of age. Found out it really likes federal fusion 165s. Two shot group at 100, ammo too expensive for bigger groups… and a doe I shot with it in November. It is one heck of a rifle.
 

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#11 ·
I've owned all of the Remington semis; 740(2), 742(2), 7400(2) and 750(2). I only own a single 742 now that I recently traded into. I also have owned several BARs, 3 full Belgium in '06(2) and .308 and newer versions in '06, .300 and .270.

I always preferred the Brownings, but never had issues with the Remingtons except for one 740 which was junk. I don't believe that there will be any new Remingtons made any more, and I think it most prudent to get a new semi-auto. I do wish that I'd purchased a Browning Short Track in .300WSM when they were being made. The combination of the short action and 23" barrel kept the OAL within my personal "limits". Unfortunately, last I knew they are back to a single action length (long) and I'd be only interested in one in 06. As I have as many center-fire semiautomatic rifles as I need at this point, I'll likely just stick with the mint 1978 742 I recently got.
 
#13 ·
I too am a big fan of wood and blued steel, but when it comes to semi-auto performance, a modern DI AR10 type rifle is pretty hard to beat for dependability, accuracy, ease of maintenance, etc.
For hunting, as mentioned above, there are a couple of models such as the Ruger SFAR mentioned above, or Springfield Armory's AR10 type "victor" that keep the weight down to acceptable levels.
I would definitely go with an adjustable gas block for a lightweight AR10. YMMV
 
#18 ·
I truly do believe that if I were serious about bringing home meat I would be taking my standard grade Poly-Tec M1A1 out with a decent 4-12X40 on top.
I shot that rifle across the course and Palma, and I'm confident that the rifle, maybe not me, but the rifle could easily take game at 600-700 yards.
Weighs about 10 pounds with a good scope on top, and trust me, that's nice for recoil. Can be fitted with a 5 round mag.
I have more faith in that rifle to hit it's mark than anything else in the safe.
Second in line is a bolt gun, also in .308
 
#19 · (Edited)
Get a Springfield Armoury (SA) M1A Scout, take off all the Scout parts save about 1lb 4 ounces, replace the upper handguard with an original fiberglass unit save 1 ounces, get an aftermarket recoil spring guide rod with lightening cuts save 1 ounces (or drill holes in the factory guide rod), quality aluminum scope mount properly mounted. Fast short rifle that weights a bit about 1 1/2 pound less than a standard AR-10. If you get the SA walnut stock, take off the heavy steel but plate, and replace with light weight plastic unit 7 ounces saved, the SA wood pretty much weighs the same as the SA synthetic tock. SA wood is way oversized, awkward, heavy , replace with a trim original early Winchester stock, save about 4 ounces. So with some thought and effort, a person can drop the weight of a M1A by about 1 7/8 pounds.

The rifle so modified here, weighs 7.4 pounds, about the same as Marlin 336, using the factory irons a very effective woods rifle, a joy to carry, I'm comfortable with that set up out to about 300 yards.. With a move to optics long range potential is there, my hunting handloads go about 1.25 inches at 100 yards benched, from the iron sights.
Modified M1A scout is the middle rifle.
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#20 ·
Any AR platform that fires a 308 or similar cartridge if you want to use it for big game hunting. I'm partial to the 308 so that is what my AR 10 is chambered in. My other AR's are all in 223. I will say though that an AR 10 is a heavy rifle to lug around all day, unless you are in a blind. AR platforms aren't cheap, especially the 308 versions. But some are cheaper than a SA M1A1. Others on here may give better advice and or ideas on types of rifles. Good luck, and hope you find what you're looking for in a semi.
 
#35 ·
I’ll 2nd the weight thing, took my AR10 in 308 up to the cabin once and was going to go sit on a ridge somewhere with it, I have it outfitted with a long range scope and bipod and literally have to purposefully try and miss the x-ring at a 200 yard zero. So I’m thinking I’ll go watch the edge of a tree line and see what happens for the evening. I made it from the front porch to the edge of the property…turned around, walked back to the house and grabbed my 7mm - which I always thought was a heavy rifle, not so much. If the bad guys show up I will grab my AR10, Elk and Deer are going down with a 6lb inline 50 cal black powder rifle, or any one of my bolt guns or lever actions big enough to do the job. I’m too old to pack that thing up a mountain unless I absolutely have to!
 
#21 ·
I have a Remington R25 (an AR10 in .308W) when Obummer took office. I wanted to get one before they were outlawed by anti-gun fascists. Turns out, they are not outlawed but I have no regrets on buying the R25. It's not light but boy does she shoot! ! have whacked a lot of deer and hogs with it. Never any problems.

A while back, I was on a ranch in South Texas hunting. The owner wanted to introduce me to one of favorite pastimes. He would place gallon containers of colored fruit drinks on the bank of a big pond and then shoot at them from the other side of the pond which was about a three hundred yard shot. He shot from a bench with a bolt action rifle wearing a 20X scope chambered in 22-250. After he busted a couple jugs, he invited me to give it a try. I had my R25 with a non-magnified red dot sight. The first shot, I held a little high and it hit high. Then I proceeded to bust every jug firing a single shot on each. Needless to say, the ranch owner was stunned. The following week, he bought an AR10 n .308. 😂

As for the Remington 742/750 (I have a couple), they are fine as a hunting rifle. I wouldn't take one on a hunt requiring super long shots. Some people would call them "Jamamatics". The problem was dirty chambers. Use a brush and swab now and then to keep them clean and you won't be disappointed.

T.S.
 
#25 · (Edited)
What game are you hunting? What ranges? I have a Ruger Mini-14 in 6.8SPC. Very accurate rifle. For a few years, when I hunted a blind on private property with short ranges, it was my deer rifle. Nice looking hunting rifle as well with a wood stock and designed for a scope. Easy to clean too.... AR15's have a bunch of good close range deer cartridges.... If you need to reach out more in range or killing power that will drive you to BARs and AR10's and 308 case based semi's and cartridges.... Good luck....
 
#26 · (Edited)
What game are you hunting? What ranges? I have a Ruger Mini-14 in 6.8SPC. Very accurate rifle. For a few years, when I hunted a blind on private property with short ranges, it was my deer rifle. Nice looking hunting rifle as well with a wood stock and designed for a scope. Easy to clean too.... AR15's have a bunch of good close range deer cartridges.... If you need to reach out more in range or killing power that will drive you to BARs and AR10's and 308 case base semi's and cartridges.... Good luck....
Simple Oklahoma whitetail for now, gonna put hogs on the list. Mainly it would be a hog or coyote gun. I’ll take the RUM for elk when I’m graced with that opportunity.

where I hunt has the potential for 200yd shots, but usually stuff wonders in to about the 60 mark to graze, the does anyway. The bucks, other than my lucky buck in blackpowder season rarelyventure far out of the tree line so they’d almost always be in the 175-200 range
 
#27 ·
@ImALeverNotAFighter - Never owned a BAR or 7400/742, etc. The individuals I know who have them have all told me that maintenance is a certain need - dry chambers in the Remingtons and dirty chambers / actions / etc. in the BAR's -
I'm sort of in the mindset of @NickMc - I'd reach for one of my 760's first before one of the 7400's - guy I hunt with has one and it was a jam machine - and I'm not talking grape or raspberry jam . . . no matter what he did. . .

Now - I've hunted with a AR 10 in .308 - shoots lights out. Have a AR15 in 6.8 - shoots lights out. Have a friend with an AR in 6.5 Crreed - shoots lights out. . . . Recently acquired a carbine upper for a .300BLK - plan to use it this fall if I'm lucky enough to draw a tag - I'd hunt with any of them and have done so - successfully. The weight has not been a real issue - and I'm an old guy. . .

Good luck in your quest to find something that works for you. . .
 
#28 ·
I have one of the early Winchester model 100 in ,308. It has been a great rifle and given me absolutely no problems. Killed my first deer with that rifle in 1963. I also have one of the Belgian BARs in 338. It has taken game with no problems. In this day and age, I think I would agree that your best bet would be something on an AR platform
 
#29 · (Edited)
There's been more than a few good responses given in the ^above^ posts.

My own suggestion...

*Desert Tech MDR: ( a semi-auto bull-pup design) simple in the field change out of barrels/calibers available. The complete rifle is short at 26.2" OAL unless you add a suppressor to it.
Calibers available are as follows;
.223 Wylde 1/8 RH twist 16" barrel @ 8.3 LBS. without optics
.308 Win. 1/10 RH twist 16" barrel @ 8.3 LBS. without optics
.300 BLK. 1/6 RH twist 16" barrel @ 8.3 LBS. without optics

The above should cover just about everything you might need or want in a light weight semi-auto rifle. Thats 1 rifle thats convertible to 3 different calibers.

Old Creek
 
#30 ·
The M1A is just as heavy as the Garand. The AR-10 is a little better. The Browning BAR's are excellent rifles (I have 2 in 338 WinMag) and come in calibers not available in other semi-auto platforms, but they are SPENDY!!! As mentioned, some don't like the Remington 740 series, but some do. For close range, there's also the Remington Model 81, preferably in 35 Remington, but a good Marlin 336 is lighter and just as accurate.

My personal opinion is that for serious hunting, a good bolt gun is hard to beat. Or a good lever action under the proper circumstances.