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35 Remington ammo - hard to find

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Hi gang.

I just posted my new find (336 SC in 35 Rem.) at http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/336/145324-336-sc-35-rem-mfg-1953-find-day.html .

Started looking for ammo on line, and all four of my local dealers, and no one has any.

The dealer where I bought the gun has 4 boxes (he is 30 miles away) and I am going down this morning to buy all 4 (think 2 are 200 grn Federal and 2 are 200 grain Hornady Revolution).

Can't believe that the last 35 Rem Marlin 336 I sold a couple of years ago, that I gave the guy 3 boxes of ammo.

What's up with this ammo? One of my local dealers had about 20 boxes of .30-40 Krag, and just as many .32 Special, but no 35 Rem. ammo.

Trooper Joe
 
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I just got on the 35 bandwagon last Fall and 35 ammo was pretty easy to find, although somewhat higher than the 30-30 I was used to buying. Then after the deer season ended the ammo went away.

Then I picked up a 444 Marlin and things REALLY got tough! I'm still searching for brass for both and am making small purchases here and there. But finding either one on the shelf is an Easter egg hunt for sure.

It may be next Fall before it comes around again in any volume. Good Luck!
 
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I have found some 35 Remington at Bass Pro Shop. I bought the 200 grain Hornady because all else they had was 150 grain Remingtons. Reloading is THE WAY to go, make no mistake about that. At least that way you will always have some ammo on hand.

Ron
 
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I've got a friend over at Ellett Brothers, who supplies half the nation with ammo through their distribution warehouses right down the road and their sales offices all over the South, and he told me what little they get is rationed-out by the box, rather than the case, these days. The reason I called him was because I need 35 Remington. He said their vendors (sic: manufacturers) were focusing on more common calibers and that all the uncommon calibers that requires retooling, to run the presses, are on hold.

I told him that 35 Remington was common and in wide demand. He told me that, compared to demand for other calibers like .308, 30-30, 30/06 and even 270 ... 35 Remington is barely a speck on the radar but that he understood the niche demand and they were still trying to get as much as they secure - they have standing orders with their vendors.

I called him from my LGS when, after having prepaid for six boxes of 35 Remington almost a year ago, my LGS friend claimed he was still unable to get it and knowing I knew someone over there, he asked me to call while telling me my friend was just recently been promoted. So I did, and that's what I was told, almost straight from the horse's mouth. (I also learned that there has just recently been a huge reorganization and that practically all the old timers are gone from management and have been replaced either from within or with people from outside the company - at almost every position right up to the CEO)

I grew up a few miles from Ellett Bros, they are a big deal around here and employ thousands of people. I can remember the days, back in the sixties and seventies, when they were THE distributor for the entire country, the proverbial middle-man, for guns and ammo along with all the other sporting goods they distribute. They are still the big boys on the block in terms of other sporting goods from arrows to golf balls to anything Marine (water sports) related, but when it comes to ammo, I was told the big boxes are monopolizing the ammo buys. Wally World, Cabelas, Bass Pro Shop, et al, demand certain quotas be met or else they'll take their multi-million dollar contracts elsewhere ... and they are not demanding niche calibers so the big manufacturers are concentrating on what they need to fill contracts on common calibers and everyone else is stuck with getting the leftovers. (This in addition to huge government contracts being paid for with our tax dollars at higher prices than the current civilian market would support ... so the government contracts will always get priority even over the big boxes and the big boxes have accepted that fact.)

He told me they had talked to several smaller manufacturers about special runs on some calibers and was told it would be too expensive, the finished product would be too expensive, to make it worth anyone's while. It all starts with components and even if Georgia Arms, Atlanta Arms, or one of the other small manufacturers, were willing to make the runs, they'd have a hard time securing the niche caliber components.

Even Hornady, who made its bones on developing and manufacturing niche calibers, is hesitant to shut down the line and retool for 35 Remington, 308 and 338 MX, and others because at the rate their lines run, (XX,XXX number of rounds per hour), and with demand for common calibers the way it is, a six hour shut-down to retool and calibrate the line would mean the temporary loss of 100s of 1000s of rounds of a more common caliber for which there is equal or more demand and for which they are already having trouble filling contract quotas. It would cost them 10s of 1000s of dollars in lost production because the hours are not just lost in retooling for, let's say 35 Rem, but they lose another six hours when having to switch back to the more common caliber which are in higher demand.

What we are occasionally seeing out there right now, is probably leftover stock from much earlier runs that was stashed away somewhere and is either just now hitting the shelves or was always there in little known off-the-beaten path LGSs.

He told me point blank that he sees very little relief in the foreseeable future because, even if we elect a very Conservative administration in the next election, that the country's anxiety with regard to the state of our economy and the overall uneasiness and fears about our country's future will continue to fuel shortages for at least the next decade if not longer. He said his sales team, who man their phone banks 12-14 hours a day in shifts, are hearing from their LGS customers that we, the shooting public, are in "hoarding mode" (and I hate that term), shooting less and hoarding more when it comes to ammo. He also said that calibers that were on their way out two decades ago, like 35 Rem, have found a new following thanks to the massive increase in interest in leverguns and thanks to forums such as this one, which he was very familiar with because he too owns several Marlins.

Common calibers, he told me, are starting to catch-up a little thanks to inflation within the industry and less disposable income among shooters to continue buying ammo at increased prices. He thinks prices have stabilized to some degree, but supply continues to be a problem, (then we got off on the 22LR discussion and I almost was depressed).

Then we got on the topic of Marlin, because I know they are distributors for Marlin and all of Remington really. He was reserved about what he was willing to say about Marlin. I expressed some concern about quality issues, he said they were aware of issues and that Marlin was working hard to resolve the problems with the move and training new production line employees in NY. He said they have experienced a noticeable drop in quality control issues from Marlin and he felt confident that Marlin rifles would soon be back to pre-relocation quality standards ... that they were very close. He said that Marlin has recently recognized Ellett Brothers and Jerry's Sports as Distributors of the Year, (both now fall under the parent company USC or United Sporting Companies). He said they sold more Marlins last year than in any year in their history to the best of his knowledge.
 
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As I said in another post last night im sure it will be easier to find as we get closer to the fall hunting seasons. Most of the manufacturers have either suspended or are doing occasional very limited runs of the less popular hunting calibers right now so they can concentrate on the current big sellers like 223, pistol rounds etc. They most likely will produce these less popular calibers,even if in smaller runs than usual, prior to hunting season such as Hornady plans to do with the 444 265gr FP
 
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#9 ·
Im am glad every day that I cast my own and reload.... I hate to hear of people out there with new rifles they want to shoot and there is no ammo anywhere to be found. So where is all this ammo that companies are making going? Im not seeing it here.. I always look when I go to LGS's or WallyWorld, they have the same old 12 gauge boxes and 1 or 2 boxes of 300 Win Mag.



Doc
 
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Im am glad every day that I cast my own and reload.... I hate to hear of people out there with new rifles they want to shoot and there is no ammo anywhere to be found. So where is all this ammo that companies are making going? Im not seeing it here.. I always look when I go to LGS's or WallyWorld, they have the same old 12 gauge boxes and 1 or 2 boxes of 300 Win Mag.

Doc
You bring up something I forgot to mention Doc. He asked me when, if ever, was the last time I remember Wally World ever carrying 35 Rem? I told him I honestly can't remember them ever doing it come to think of it, and that if they did, it must have been a long time ago.

He said if Wally World is not ordering it, if they feel no need to carry it and have not done so for years, then it is not a priority for the vendors to produce/supply it, plain and simple.
 
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Doc our smaller dealers seem to have more ammo now. I know of three dealers that have 22 in stock at this time. Walmart and Gander never have the 22 on the shelf around here. Most of the rifle calibers are available but you don't see much .35 Remington around here. Of course there are not a lot of people in my area that hunt with .35 either.
 
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I am thinking the way to gun control is not being able to buy Ammo or being able to buy bullets to reload.Then powder is another issue.

Years ago you could not buy primers .So shooting 300/400 rds of reloads a week , my wife and I were forced to quit shooting.We stopped shooting at the club and slowly sold our revolvers .
This year we are having problems locating powders , and if found the price is very high.Now the latest rush seems to be bullets.Having problems finding the caliper and weights we use for hunting.
So no one is stopping us from buying or selling arms."BUT" Some one has stopped the trail of Ammo or Components to reload them. GUN CONTROL
 
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I answered in another thread a couple days ago. I was in the local Bass Pro last week and they had a dozen or so boxes of Core-Lokt 200 and at least twice as many 150s. No gummy tips and a lot of empty shelves otherwise. Every time I have been there, they always seem to have at least a few boxes of 35 Rem.
 
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I used to shoot A LOT!! now I hardly go because I dont want to waste my primers, powders and my lead... Im feeling like a hoarder now...
I have enough components to last my lifetime if I dont go out and shooting every weekend so I dont. I want my son to learn reloading and even casting for his own pistol and rifle. I didnt want to rely on ammo always being there so I planned to have the components to make my own. I would feel a lot better if I had my own range where I could get my lead back...

Doc
 
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#16 ·
Reload if you can.. be patient and shop extensivly for components.. keeps your eyes and ears open at all times and be ready to purchase when a decent buy or opportunity comes up.. The 35 rem is why I got back to reloading... My thought is that full ammo shelves in the closet is like a good wood pile in the winter.."It's money in the bank" :tee:
 
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I can usually find it here locally, but it aint cheap. Usually runs a little over double what I pay for 30-30 ammo
I can find 35 Rem at my LGS but it isn't double their 30-30 prices--but its about double what 30-30 runs in Wallyworld. I am lucky that I can get 35 Rem anytime I want. Its been 30-30 and 308 Win that are hard to find over the past year in my area.
 
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Lucky you.... here in Ga I can pretty much find 30-30 and .308 any day. 35 Remington is just about impossible to find unless deer season is coming up. It's been that way for the past few years. One of these days I'll get a clue and start the process of learning reloading for all of 35 brass I've saved with cast boolits.

Found 2 boxes of Hornady 200 grn locally and 2 Federal 200 grn about 30 miles away. 4 is good for now but I am definitely getting back into hand loading

In 1971, I gave all my bullet molding and loading equipment to a Northern Michigan police department. Kind of got out of guns until I retired from the State Police in 1989. In early 90's, after starting to buy quite a few lever guns, I wondered what had happened to this old equipment.

Called the department to see if it was just rusting away in a closet or something. The patrolman who answered the phone advised that he wasn't even born in 1971 :hmmmm:, so I sort of gave up.

This new/old .35 Remington I just bought, will get me back into it. My 1953 Marlin 336 SC, .35 Remington, has a "Ballard" barrel so there shouldn't be an issue with cast bullets. However, I have used some professionally re-loaded, cast .357 Mag. ammo in my 1994, Microgroove, 94 Marlin and haven't noticed a problem.
either.

Heading to Alabama tomorrow morning so it will be an adventure trying to dig up some more .35 Rem. ammo.

Thanks for all the comments on this issue.
FYI- On occasion I'll find some Remington 150gr .35Rem ammo and I just leave it there. My 336 groups the 150gr stuff like a shotgun pattern.... any conventional 200gr ammo shoots the same from my 336. Of course if you just need the brass, buy the 150's...

I knew there was a reason why I've saved all of the brass from my .35Rem and .300savage throughout the years....
 
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Found 2 boxes of Hornady 200 grn locally and 2 Federal 200 grn about 30 miles away. 4 is good for now but I am definitely getting back into hand loading

In 1971, I gave all my bullet molding and loading equipment to a Northern Michigan police department. Kind of got out of guns until I retired from the State Police in 1989. In early 90's, after starting to buy quite a few lever guns, I wondered what had happened to this old equipment.

Called the department to see if it was just rusting away in a closet or something. The patrolman who answered the phone advised that he wasn't even born in 1971 :hmmmm:, so I sort of gave up.

This new/old .35 Remington I just bought, will get me back into it. My 1953 Marlin 336 SC, .35 Remington, has a "Ballard" barrel so there shouldn't be an issue with cast bullets. However, I have used some professionally re-loaded, cast .357 Mag. ammo in my 1994, Microgroove, 94 Marlin and haven't noticed a problem.
either.

Heading to Alabama tomorrow morning so it will be an adventure trying to dig up some more .35 Rem. ammo.

Thanks for all the comments on this issue.
 
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Stopped at about 6 places on my trip to Alabama and no one has 35 Remington. Stopped at Bass Pro in Jeffersonville, Indiana (just before Kentucky, and scored.
They had about 8 boxes of Remington 200 grn, in 35 Rem. They also had two stacks (about 20 boxes) of Remington in the 150 grn. Took 2 boxes of the 200 grn (I don't want to be a hoarder) which now make me 6 boxes.

Spending the night in Bowling Green, KY and stopped at a newly remodeled Gander Mountain. WOW regarding the store and all the ammo. They have everything (including .380) and lots of it. Only had 35 Whelen (don't really know what that is) and no 35 Rem (about the only thing they didn't have). The gun section manager told me they even have over a million rounds of Remington 525 pack .22 ammo and put a bunch out each morning to celebrate their grand opening. (Got to stay out of the beer tonight and get there early tomorrow morning before I continue my trip :)).

Trooper Joe
 
#22 ·
I live in Hellifornia where they don't know what a 35 Rem is so no chance of finding factory ammo here....

Doc
 
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#23 ·
I saw several boxes of 35 Rem Hornady Leverevolution and Remington Corelokt at my local Academy at lunch. Just not the 30-30 Leverevolution I was looking for.
 
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#24 ·
I got my first 53 336SC a year ago and was able to buy the one and only bag of 50 pieces of Remington brass and I have been able to get 10 boxes of the Lever 200 gr FTX from the local Cabelas. I don't know if they have only been putting out a couple boxes at a time or if they have been ordering it and getting it in, because there have only been a few times when they didn't have any on the shelf, but never more than a couple of weeks. The other interesting thing, is that, there are 3 different lot numbers in that 10 boxes.

From the information I have been reading, my 250 cases should last me a long time.

My Brother just picked up an SC in 35Rem a couple weeks ago and now we have to get him the 2 boxes that were on the shelf last week.

I don't think there are many 35Rem shooters up here in the northwest.
 
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Like Doc, I have a lifetime supply of lead and gas checks, go-to powder, and barrels of brass and cases of primers. But we don't shoot as much due to the improbability of replacement at ANY price.
And now I'm forced to feel like a hoarder, though I haven't bought any components in years.
My current box of primers reads $12.75.....
 
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#26 ·
My current box of primers reads $12.75.....
A 3.65 box of primers is now 12.75? HOLY CRAP!!! thats like 638.00 for a box of 5000 like I bought for 167.00
Sure glad I dont need any more at that price.... I guess I havent priced primers in a while

Doc
 
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#28 ·
The gander mountain here in Ohio is out of 35 Rem. But I can pick up a box here and there from some local gun shops most any time. One shop has plenty (2 cases) but it isn't cheap, but they do have it. Don't give up it will come to you and whatever you do keep your brass. It is valuable as you know.
 
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Only had 35 Whelen (don't really know what that is)
It is .30-06 necked up to .35 caliber. It is a good elk round.
 
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#31 ·
LT, for the 300 Savage you can use 308 brass if you ever run out.... I made some 300 Sav out of a few pieces I had sitting around ( I dont own a 308 ) Then I found a guy who makes them in batches to sell so I bought 400 of them from him so I have a lot to load up.


Doc
 
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#33 ·
In all honesty, for as much as I don't shoot the ole Savage 99, I probably have enough ammo plus all of the empty brass to last me till I die. However, I need to learn how to reload so I can start using my .35Rem more often. I hunt in some thick nasty stuff, so it'll be more useful there.
 
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