I'm not an either or guy, I have a 450 and 45-70's. I got the 450 at a very reasonable price and as a Marlin collector I was happy to add it to my stable.
I want to say I remember reading ‘Mrs. Barnes’ ran one of those barnbusters through a buffalo in Africa back when they first came out. I may have the animal, the continent, or even the whole story wrong, though.Got the handy stowable 450 Marlin BLR takedown model. Hunting load - 400gr Barnes Buster at 2000 fps mv.
Post some pics when you get the rifle. Congrats!After consideration, I have decided to go ahead and pick up the rifle. If nothing else, it will be an "Oddity" in my collection of Marlin rifles and various Winchester offerings.
Thanks to all for your input. I'll simply start to hunt down brass, and keep in mind that I need to keep my Hornady Ammo brass separate and only for FTX bullet loads. I'm familiar with this concept in 45/70 and can't understand why Hornady can't simply use standard length brass and shorten the nose on their polymer tip. Oh well, that's a discussion for another time.
I let a Ruger No 1 in 45-70, and 26" barrel get away several years ago. I always felt that the longer barrel made a better match with the No 1 action.Another offering in 450 Marlin, Ruger No.1-S. Features 20" 1:16 medium sporter barrel. Wouldn't mind finding 1 to round out my No.1 collection.
I've own(ed) and shot both. Performance wise (in my opinion) on the range, game or effective range are pretty much the same. Is the .450 a "dead caliber"? The answer depends on who you want to listen to. Personally, I don't think it is. There's still brass and dies being made for the cartridge and it is a solid performer. Most folks have heard of the .45-70 and it is a popular cartridge, certainly more popular than the .450, which isn't as well known. According to one of my books, the .450 was introduced as an alternative to the .45-70 since there are still a number of Trapdoor Springfields and other aged firearms out there who may have destroyed the old guns with a .45-70 loaded to modern pressures.I'm brand new to the caliber, but a buddy is offering me a like new Winchester 94 Trails End Takedown with dies and 100 brass for a steal.
I'm inclined to take it, because everyone else backed down when they heard the caliber, and claimed it to be a "Dead Caliber".
For the record, I have extensive experience with 45/70 and loading for it, and while the cartridges themselves are not interchangeable the load data is to a certain extent. So, if I wanted to load the 450 Marlin "Down" using 5744 or Trail Boss, it would take the same bullets as the .460 sized 45/70 bullets I already have a glut of.
What are your thoughts?
Is there still a chance for this chambering to make a comeback, or is it dead and I should just hang up the offer?
I built a 450 Marlin on a 98 Mauser custom throat for 500 grain bulletts and 60,000 PSI. Styer wanted over $5,000 mine set me back $1,600 I believe. Shilen air guage barrel, I kept the military 2 stage trigger, used a Ramline synthetic stock, and I believe Gerber sights. Awesome firepower, with better safety then a 45 70 as the rounds won't chamber in a lever gun and with the propriatary belt they won't chamber in a sub 45 caliber magnum.450 Marlin would be a handy bolt rifle. Steyr used to make 1 -