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**If you shoot me an e mail with your MO user name I can give you a 10% discount on the WaxMeister if you would like to order it.

My company has just brought a new product to market that we feel will be a big help to those who pan lube.

The WaxMeister is a simple hand held tool that lets you quickly and
easily pan lube a large number of hard cast lead bullets without the
usual mess. It is engineered to work with almost any style bullet and
most common calibers.

It works on the same principal as a cookie cutter or when you cut the case head off and use that as the cutter to get the bullets out of the wax by hand. When you do that you have to push the bullets out of the cutter by hand or let them come up through the top into your hand. With the WaxMeister you push it down over one bullet and cut it out of the wax. Then you set the tool over whatever you want to put the lubed bullets on and press the plunger on top of the tool. This pushes the bullet out and sets it on its base and you never have to handle the bullet when the wax is still soft in the grooves. You can then let the bullets fully cool and let the wax set up before you handle them. It saves you from having to use two hands and having to handle the bullet when the wax is still soft.

Currently the WaxMeister and extra cutters are available in the
following sizes:
.261
.312
.360
.381
.413
.433
.454
.461

Each cutter is designed to work best with a bullet that is at least .002"-.004" under the cutter size.

The WaxMeister with cutter of your choice is $24.95 and each additional cutter is $4.00 and can be ordered here.

We will be expanding our caliber line up in the very near future. If
you would like to request another caliber please e mail Levi Knowlton,
[email protected]. We can also accommodate uncommon
custom calibers.

My partners would probably hang me for this but here is a little advice. We have found that using a fire formed case as a cutter for that specific bullet produces the BEST results. Obviously we cant fire form every case to your gun so we have come up with a process that produces a cutter that works very well if used on the appropriate bullet. Currently the WaxMeister only accepts a 45-70 case for a cutter or one that has identical base dimensions. We will be expanding this lineup in the near future. If you would like to use your own fire formed case on the WaxMeister for best results we could sell only the WaxMeister without the cutter for $20.00. If you have a fire formed case, other than 45-70, we could fit it to work on the WaxMeister for a very small fee. Probably around $5.00 depending on exactly what has to be done. If you would like to use one of these options please shoot me an e mail and I would be happy to accommodate you.

Videos:
WaxMeister Overview
Pan and lube Setup
WaxMeister Operation

 

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Re: The WaxMeister Pan Lubing Tool

Below is a review from one of our Beta testers.

Levi -

I received your new pan lubing aid tool:



I got a chance to use the tool today.

I lined up a bunch of SAECO .45 cal. rifle bullets (487 grain 1:20).
And got my pan of SPG lube - last used by my buddy for his 50-90 bullets.



I went ahead and melted down the SPG.



Then placed in the bullets and waited for the "cake" to harden...



Now - the "do-or-die" time!











I think you have an excellent product.
I've been pan lubing for years and removing the bullets from the cake is always hit or miss on keeping the lube in the grooves and even removing the bullets with slippery fingers.
It only took me three or four bullet pulls to get a technique down.
Your tool makes it very simple to "Poke and Punch" bullets from the lube cake while maintaining the integrity of the lube in the grooves.
I know that some remove the lube cake and punch them out manually and those people probably wouldn't use this tool, but I don't use that method and this tool works as designed.

Design notes:
When I first received the tool I tested it dry on a few cast bullets and found that it was shaving some lead from the bullet driving bands.
I took my case prep reamer and chamfered the inside of the "case" then smoothed and polished it and then the driving band shaving disappeared.

***We have redone the chamfer on all the cutters we have and they will all ship with a larger chamfer to ensure the bullet is not shaved when the proper sized cutter is used.



While I was doing all this today my buddy showed up at our workshop and he used it on my .45 bullets and was immediately impressed and wants to know if you can build him a conversion case plug for his 50-90 Sharps using a .511 bullet. Here is his hand written note that he asked me to append to this reply (he wants it NOW)!



I give your product 4.5 out of 5 thumbs up.
I will use this product from now on to pull bullets from from the lube cake!

Levi, please contact me if you need or want more info.

~Terry B.
 

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Re: The WaxMeister Pan Lubing Tool **FREE SHIPPING**

Levi! One word. WOW!



The bullets with the lube show how they dry on the cookie sheet. The other two represent how they push back out of the tool. I used your .360" tube on a .359" bullet. Reference our earlier email, I probably need to use .002" over my various bullet diameters. This is simply based on the pressure required to punch the tube over the bullet and the push it back out. With the Alox dry, I do not think there is any special consideration needed.

Reference my liquid Alox dip technique and cookie sheet drying, this tool is the cat's purr!
  • No need to run the bullets through a second pass of the sizer.
  • The tool keeps the excess lube on the cookie sheet. Using the sizing die/press put it on my floor.
  • Bullets are dropped directly in a container.
  • Conservatively, decreases the final step of my technique by a third of the amount of time.

DEFINITELY A THUMBS UP!
 

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All right guys, this is what I have come up with to go on the end of the plunger rod to ease the wear and tear on your thumb. It aint pretty but it works pretty darn good in my opinion and its cheap and easy, another big plus.

1/4" push nut
1/4" rubber grommet
put the push nut on the end of the rod then put the grommet over top of the push nut and thats it. Let me know what you think.





 

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Levi was kind enough to send me one of the tools to beta test. Here is some feedback i sent back to him at the time. Posting here now.

THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS TOOL IS THAT NOW I CAN QUICKLY AND EASILY PAN LUBE BULLETS AND NOT HAVE TO RELY ON LIQUID ALOX/TUMBLE LUBING! Nor do I have to use a punch stick with my current homemade cutter cases... I know LA works, but I hate the stuff, primarily due to the tumble lube process. Also can't stand the LA lube on the nose of the finished bullets!

The overall machining and construction of the tool is top rate. I like the fit and especially the function! The size of the aluminum tube/handle that holds the spring mechanism fit my hand well for fist hold/thumb punching bullets out. I especially like the adjustable collet collar on the push rod, allowing adjustment for hand size and/or the number of bullets you want to pick up in the cutter tube before punching them out.

The sizing of the cutter tubes (45-70 cases) is just right for their intended calibers. I picked up both 44 (.432) and 45 (.452) bullets (both had been sized). I did notice, as did one other tester, a slight shaving of lead from some bullets. This is easily remedied the same way as the other tester - a quick swipe with a debur tool on the mouth of the cutter tube. I think you stated this has been addressed in production models.

One suggestion I would make is to put a wood knob or other fitting on the end of the push rod. After using it a number of times, the end of the rod wore on my thumb. Before I do any large production work with the tool, I will add some sort of round wood knob to mine. - edit: I see (in post above) that this issue has also been addressed.

Last - now I want cutter tubes for ALL the calibers I am casting for! These include .264/.268/6.5MM, various .308/.312/7.62 & 7.65MMs and 8MM (both .323, AND ~.331 for a M95 8x56R!). I checked my tool with both 7.62x54R and 8x56R cases. I think these will both work for the sizes listed, and the brass retaining nut held them fairly satisfactorily. The Russian case would be MUCH more economical, I am sure! Don't know that you could size/squeeze a 45-70 down far enough!

Thanx for allowing me to beta test the tool!

Steve
 

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i stuck a wine cork on mine. works great. love the tool
 

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mebe007 said:
i stuck a wine cork on mine. works great. love the tool
Have a couple neat cork Bourbon stoppers - maybe a good new home for one!
 

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We are now offering the below calibers for sale on our new website. More to come!

.261
.312
.360
.381
.413
.433
.454
.461
 

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How much is that .461? I'll be needing something for doing these .45-70 boolits soon
 

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Well, I don't know where to start. I purchased the Waxmeister and 3 cutters on September 10th, and have not received product nor responses to emails and pm on over on cast boolits. All I want is product, but no answer or responses makes me think that business is not in business! A whole month and no replies by Levi. I wonder how I can get a Google refund, since it was purchased through them? Any thoughts guys or gals?

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Keep us posted on how you make out.I had thought about ordering the waxmeister and some cutters I'am going to hold off now.Other than your post there hasn't been anything for months.Hope you get it straightened out.
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Well, after 5 weeks with no responses, I got an email stating that they have refunded my money. No other explanation was provided. Sad part is I would have gladly waited, if they only would have communicated at all!

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Sorry to hear they didn't come thru for you. Are they out of business? I was thinking of placing an order,but will look into making my own now. I have an order in with another guy over at CB and its been over 2 months now. Keeps saying "very soon" and "this week" but nothing yet. Very disappointed!
 

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You don't even need it if you are using soft lubes like SPG or Eagle lube. The bullets push through the lube cake so well with out! They come out better the with the cutter because there is no mess, just lube in the grooves.
 

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You don't even need it if you are using soft lubes like SPG or Eagle lube. The bullets push through the lube cake so well with out! They come out better the with the cutter because there is no mess, just lube in the grooves.
I dunno ... it's a little different for those of us living in very hot climates, unless it is winter time or unless we are willing to make our cakes in the refrigerators first.
 

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"unless we are willing to make our cakes in the refrigerators first. "
I am not sure what you are saying about the hot south that is different than the frozen North?
And nothing bad about using the refrigerator unless the lady of the house gets upset.
I pour the melted Eagle lube in the pan after the bullets have been placed in the pan. Pour it up to the level you want lube in the grooves. Let it set-up. I then put it in the freezer for 15 min. or half hour and when chilled the lube contracts away from the pan. Bullets/lube cake falls out in my hand when I turn the pan over. Let that cake come back to room temp. Put the cake bullet base side on work table. Place one row of bullets over the edge of work table and push out perfect bullets with your thumb and catch them with your other hand . Always works. Easy! I hope this helps.
 
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