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I don't know if any similar information has been posted before, I did a quick search and didn't find anything, but there is a LOT of information here !!
Apologies if so. If not, a friend of mine sent me this information about 4 years ago.

Here we go -- Enjoy, Brother Riflemen:



***** I ESTIMATE THAT THE INFORMATION BELOW IS UNKNOWN TO 99% OF THE RIFLEMEN IN THIS COUNTRY *****



WHAT I AM DESCRIBING BELOW IS A COMPLETE SYSTEM IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE COOPER SCOUT RIFLE CONCEPT WAS A CONGLOMERATION OF MANY ELEMENTS COMBINED TOGETHER TO MAKE THE SCOUT CONCEPT WHAT IT IS.

All the below done with a lever action Marlin 1894 Carbine in .357 Magnum.




Heres Veral Smith's links for his mould info and his book that you DO WANT!!!. This is research and quality like I've never seen. The knowledge in Veral's book supercedes Any other cast bullet books and information -- nothing else comes close.

You gonna LOVVE this!!

My partner Steve is instrumental in the reloading data from when he founded Cast Performance Bullets. He went to Federal Cartridge Company and gave them samples and blew Their minds; they said it "wasn't possible"... Anyway ...


Lead Bullets Technology

Veral's Book: "Jacked Performance With Cast bullets": Lead Bullets Technology

THIS is something Verryy Verryy practical ... and Extremely deadly!

Those 2 Antelope both dropped at 125 and 302 yards lazered w/ 1 round, each bullet through both shoulders/bones; complete shoot-through. This done with an old "pistol" cartridge. I've never seen a more Completely Efficient use of this cartridge. This System WORKS!

1. THE KEY to this whole system is casting the LBT 187 gr. WFN (Wide Flat Nose) gas check bullet ... Randy Garrett copied the exact bullet shape; his 540 gr. Hammerhead in .45-70 at 1550 fps. will shoot completely through an African Cape Buffalo and kill the one behind it.

If you DO NOT cast your own bullets at present, you CAN order this bullet from Cast Performance Bullets: http://www.castperformance.com/Detail.bok?no=6 --- HOWEVER: Cast Performance DOES NOT use LBT Lube, THEREFORE, users will run into pressure problems at lower temperatures and with lighter loads than when using LBT lube. Accuracy will not be as good either. Montana Bullet Works sells them lubed with LBT Commercial lube and they'll deliver top notch performance.

NO PROBLEM shooting clean through say 4 to 6 bad guys with this 187 gr. LBT bullet depending on circumstances, any bones hit, etc., as it has already shot lengthwise completely through Elk. This .357 Magnum system is in reality a "mini-mini Garret .45-70 type set up".

Research revealed:

** You DO NOT want this combo in a .44 Magnum because:

a. It would be about double the ammo weight And size ...and so you'd carry Easily Twice the .357 rounds.
b. Not needed.
c. Excessive recoil in a big way in this M94 configuration w/ 325gr+ gr. bullets. (Like an 8lb. 30/06).

** With this 187 gr. LBT bullet you get 8% to 20% less pressure at the same velocity/output as a jacketed bullet.

** In casting, use 10 lbs. wheelweights w/ 1 TBL. of high antimony shot -- water drop them.

** About 400% more penetration than a jacketed bullet in any realistic medium from live flesh to ballistic gelatin to wet saturated newspapers with inter-spaced bones.

** The LBT Stays nose-on with no yaw while traveling through flesh or liquid medium until it goes subsonic at the least.

** 25% tighter groups. 20% more wound cavitation.

** 80% less cost than jacketed bullets or better if you cast your own.


1. Approx. 17 grns. H-110 or 296 will yield about 1920 fps. in an 18" barrel. (Work up from maybe 16.5gr. or so).
Use MAGNUM PISTOL primers and crimp the bullet.

2. .357 Mag. brass is Everywhere and cheap as dirt; everybody has it. Sometimes its free.

3. No bullets to buy; you cast your own (you will have to buy Hornady gas checks).

4. Recoil Wayyyy less than a .243/.22-250 and the report is QUIET QUIET QUIET.

5. At 17 grns. of H-110 (or 296), a can of powder goes a Lonnggg way -- 411 rounds.

6. The rounds are about Half the size, weight and maybe 1/5 the recoil of a .44 Mag. In a Grab N' Go you could Easily have over 300 rounds with you -- No Sweat, AND control your environment to easily beyond 350 yards.

7. You have a short, light, accurate, fast firing carbine holding 10 rounds w/ no recoil-induced bullet back-out problems in a spring cushioned magazine tube. You DO WANT the Marlin Model 94 as it will reliably feed this bullet, and you can clean it from the breech. It will weigh 8 lbs. fully loaded with Scoutscope mounted, OR, you can mount say a Burris Fullfield II Riflescope 2X-7X.

8. Compare this .35 caliber bullet, shape, weight, velocity, penetration, recoil, cost, and effectiveness against say a .30-30.

9. I would guess that Most of today's shooters/hunters/riflemen have Very Little idea of what can be accomplished with lead bullet technology similar to what was used 2 centuries ago. You look around and you don't see any more Buffalo wandering about.

10. THIS IS A SERIOUS, DEADLY, EFFICIENT, ALL-ROUND SYSTEM!

You could employ this carbine system say to a town's population of females from young girls 10 years of age on up, (even young girls will LOVE shooting this rifle) who have been taught only basic Riflecraft and Mindset... and have an unbelievable force to be reckoned with. It is an AWESOME combination for either hunting, or, for urban warfare if needed.

It is unbelievably deadly and it is accurate, zilch recoil and QUIET QUIET QUIET. This combination has shot lengthwise completely through Elk up in Idaho; this bullet is the KEY to this combination to be able to have such capabilities. The bullet Ballistic Coefficient is .187, the B.C. being run as a G-1 drag model.

You can easily be effective to 300 yards with this combination, and it looks plebeian and Totally Innocent. 10 rounds of this as fast as you need to shoot and as fast as you can work that lever and shoot...its Fast!

THIS SYSTEM WORKS!!

11. All of this, in a simple "innocent, plebeian, ho-hum" looking piece at an inexpensive price that is "legal" even in places like the Peoples Republik of New Jersey or Kalifornia.

I FEEL THAT THIS SYSTEM REALLLYYY NEEDS TO BE EXPLOITED TO ITS MAXIMUM ADVANTAGE BY THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
 

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Uh, so is what you're saying is that cast bullets are good?

I mean I read the whole post but I didn't get the gist of what you are saying.
Me personally I can't see any reason to not use hardcast boolits if I
can get them.
 

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Well it is pretty well known around here. But you don't have to have that specific bullet.

Unless I'm using my 44-40, I'm carrying a 357 rifle.
 

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I can't wait to try out the HSM 357 180grain hard cast Bear Load's.
I will be ordering a box today and see how my levers like them.
 
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Sure, I will post a review on those once I get them and shoot them.
They have great specs.
velocity - 1200fps
muzzle energy - 576

Should pack some wallop!
 

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Well it is pretty well known around here. But you don't have to have that specific bullet.

Unless I'm using my 44-40, I'm carrying a 357 rifle.
Yep, for a long time the Marlin 1894C has been my go to "do it all" rifle or if I could just grab one gun and go it would be it. The 357 mag out of a rifle hits the absolute sweet spot when it comes to
size of ammo and low recoil in relation to killing power
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It's basically half the size of a 30-30 rifle round but in a rilfe the 357 mag will kill the same prey while maybe only giving up 50-75 yards or so in effective range...it's a round you can carry around 500 of but still each round is deadly enough to easily take down man/deer sized prey. IMO Out of a rifle the 357 magnum has better terminal performance than the 223 rem. And 95% of my shots are/would be under 100 yards.
 
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