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Oh here we go again with the "Henry should buy Marlin" . This has not only been beat to death on this site but also put six feet under. Would G.M. buy Yugo? Why would the company that makes more rifles,levers, and others buy a dead and rotting carcass that is remlin.? Not only would that be an idiotic business move but would totally destroy a reputation for good products and excellent customer service that has taken more than two decades to build up.
Why SHOULDN’T a successful American lever-gun company acquire another American lever-gun company that was once an icon of American industry, and breathe new life into it, rather than let the brand die or relocate in a foreign country like so many other American products—including our own FLAG.
Henry has the know-how, capital and enough market share to re-capture and expand their product line to Marlin’s core buyers and retain pride in ownership under their motto, “Made in America or Not Made At All”.
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Will your new 444 load 240's and 265's into the tube smoothly?.................

Tom
Not sure. I still have to work up loads.
I have 300 gr Beartooth bullets and Hornady 300 gr XTP's to try out.

Hawk

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Why SHOULDN’T a successful American lever-gun company acquire another American lever-gun company that was once an icon of American industry, and breathe new life into it, rather than let the brand die or relocate in a foreign country like so many other American products—including our own FLAG.
Henry has the know-how, capital and enough market share to re-capture and expand their product line to Marlin’s core buyers and retain pride in ownership under their motto, “Made in America or Not Made At All”.
R/Griff

Well, unless one has been a manufacturer, they would question why not. Henry certainly wouldn't be interested in spending their capital on Remington production equipment when Henry has their own. At best, they'd pay for the Marlin name.

Then there is such a thing as sku saturation. Consider Henry's production capacity as well, does it make sense for them to sideline their Henry production to run Marlins? Both being lever guns, what does Henry stand to gain? It would be more economical for Henry to add certain chamberings in a Henry and forgo spending the bucks on the Marlin brand name.

I could see a company like Ruger to purchase Marlin in order to enter the lever market. They have no current levers that Marlin would compete against. So it would be purely an expansion of sku's to offer. It would be a much more likely gamble for Ruger to purchase Marlin than Henry, or any other current lever manufacturer.

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The patents ran out on the Marlin design early in the 20th Century. The basic action features are in the Public Domain now. That's why the Rossi Rio Grande and all the Henry's use the Marlin bolt, lever, and cartridge lifter design. Nobody has to buy Marlin, Bushmaster, H&R 1871, or any of the other divisions. Everyone in the firearms industry could let Remington Outdoors crumble and die. Then go in to the rubble and select the best investment opportunities for pennies on the dollar.
 

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It was printed in three words " that was once". If you have to ask again, you most likely don't get it.
I’m not asking, I’m telling you: It works exactly the same for car manufacturers with different brands under one corporation. It could work under the same business model.
Jack, Henry would take possession of the capital equipment and basically expand operations, satisfying a market demand. Their BoDs obviously are smarter than FAGs people and doubtless would have Marlin generating profits in short order.
Both of you are probably right, though, considering this country’s turn away from capitalism and toward socialism. Henry may have their work cut out for them as it is.
 

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Excellent idea! - but no weird colors or designs just nice wood and blued steel - OK and maybe one or two models in SS!

But for a lever gun laminate and stainless are both weird colors and Marlin made both.
 

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If you go to the Hemry forum you will see that folks are having trouble getting the rifles they want without at least a short wait for their dealer to locate one. Some have even written to Mr. Anthony Imperato the big boss at Henry. Usually he will speed things up so they get their rifle a bit quicker. Why in the wide world of sports would a company that can't keep up with the demand for their rifles even glance at what might be left of remlin? It's not going to happen. As far as car manufacturers, have you bought a new Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn or even a Mercury lately?
 

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Expanding production capacity is what most corporations hope to do, especially when the market demand clearly cannot be met.
Capitalism 101.
 

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That is true. Expanding production of their own product that they stand behind for as long as it's on the planet. Any company that even gets the Marlin name will be in for a world of hurt taking care of all the bad rifles that have been made in the last several years. If someone offered me Marlin for one dollar if I had to make good on all their screwups, I would run away as fast as I could. None of us like what has happened to Marlin but it is a fact.
 

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I’m not asking, I’m telling you: It works exactly the same for car manufacturers with different brands under one corporation. It could work under the same business model.
Jack, Henry would take possession of the capital equipment and basically expand operations, satisfying a market demand. Their BoDs obviously are smarter than FAGs people and doubtless would have Marlin generating profits in short order.
Both of you are probably right, though, considering this country’s turn away from capitalism and toward socialism. Henry may have their work cut out for them as it is.
That's like betting against yourself. No, not a good business model to build competing brand for the same demographic.
 

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Hopefully the Navajo Nation doesn't end up buying Remington, et al, as per this article: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wsj-remington-readies-for-a-second-bankruptcy-filing-possible-sale-to-navajo-nation/

When they approached Remington 2 years ago for a possible buy out, their offer was rejected in part due to:
"[The Navajo Nation] intended to shift the company away from its consumer business, including curtailing the sale of the AR-15-style weapons frequently used in mass shootings, to focus on police and defense contracts.The tribe planned to use profits from those businesses to invest in research and development of advanced “smart guns” — those with fingerprint or other technology intended to prevent anyone but the gun’s owner from using the weapon."
Which was why I added a note that it MIGHT be a good thing. I like new owners but not a new owner that wants 'smart guns" or no 'evil looking rifles". I want an owner who thinks the crossbolt is silly and returns to the original design.
 

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I really don't think that what is left of Marlin is any kind of competition for Henry.
That may be the case but, if Marlin would disappear from the face of the Earth, I for one won't become a Henry fan by default. I like the Marlin design and I will continue to support them as long as they remain in production. Regardless of what others say about Henry, I simply cannot develop an interest in them. By the way, while talking about Henry, I can't help but notice how their recent additions to their product line are looking more and more like Marlins. The side loading gate...and now Henry has an all black rifle with a threaded muzzle, and a rail IIRC...basically looks like a blatant copy off of the Marlin Dark. Can't say I've ever seen the winner try to emulate the loser. IMHO Henry is to Marlin, what Taurus is to Smith & Wesson.
 

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That may be the case but, if Marlin would disappear from the face of the Earth, I for one won't become a Henry fan by default. I like the Marlin design and I will continue to support them as long as they remain in production. Regardless of what others say about Henry, I simply cannot develop an interest in them. By the way, while talking about Henry, I can't help but notice how their recent additions to their product line are looking more and more like Marlins. The side loading gate...and now Henry has an all black rifle with a threaded muzzle, and a rail IIRC...basically looks like a blatant copy off of the Marlin Dark. Can't say I've ever seen the winner try to emulate the loser. IMHO Henry is to Marlin, what Taurus is to Smith & Wesson.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.............Henry looks to be the winner to me. They ain't going broke.....twice.
 

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Henry backs their rifles as long as they are on this planet even to several owners . And of course Remlin , no wait how many times have owners found out " the rifle is too old for us to repair". But it's O.K. that some don't like them because there are plenty that do and has been stated they are making a profit and introducing new*models at regular intervals .
 

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I understand the Henry action is based on the Marlin action.
Yet, the cowboy shooters shun Henrys because they jam when pushed at race speeds.

I own a single Henry.. a Frontier in 22LR.
I would buy this again without the slightest hesitation.
It is nicely made, feels like quality, and POI=POA.

I'm a sucker for octagonal barrels, which is an added benefit of this model.

My 1894CB was made in 2019.03.
I got lucky.. (?) as the fit and finish are flawless.
Also has POI=POA.
 

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I shun Henry until someone buys one to use and not look at, putting enough rounds through to prove it won't shake apart.
 
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